> oh JG- I promise next week I'll answer yr question of how I got into OTR. > Its a story (and it'll give Gardner the into he demands out of new kin) The into? This has to be a typo... do you mean info? -- "To be, or not to be; that is the infinitive." "2b, or not 2b; that is the apartment number" Brian Gardner, "Twisted Quotes"