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Re: Well ok...

i am truly sorry that i seem to have offended you by my enjoyment of kyle's 
inappropriate statements. i mean no harm. nothing offends me, so most often 
what should make me angry amuses me. its one of my many quirks. i don't 
really think that kyle's comments are appropriate, they just make me laugh 
heartily.

samantha


>From: Michaelangelo Zeferelli <marquis at icx_net>
>To: sam olson <beautifulblood at hotmail_com>
>CC: howe.38 at osu_edu, sage07 at hotmail_com, over-the-rhine at actwin_com,        
>otrhine at aol_com
>Subject: Re: Well ok...
>Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 17:06:45 -0500
>
>Samantha said:
>
> > although i am one of the quieter ones on the list, i must congratulate 
>you
> > on your witty and rather scathing replies, kyle. i enjoy them 
>tremendously.
> > to the new kid, how can you not enjoy a little bit of colorful 
>adversity?
> > perhaps a bit of appreciation for differences would be appropriate.
> >
>
>are you serious?  whether you are or not, there have been others who
>have said similar things in recent posts, so the sentiment *is* out
>there.
>
>I, for one, do not appreciate Kyle's abusive tones on this list.  Have
>you all forgotten when he first started posting? Have you forgotten the
>"I'm gonna kill all the f****** Christians, Columbine style,"
>comments?????? Does anyone remember how *everyone* took him seriously
>and how the list reacted?  If you don't there *is* the archive.
>
>My point is, the way 99% of us initially took him is the way 99% of the
>newbies are taking him as they are introduced to this list.  As a
>discussion list devoted to OtR, do we want the "go fuck yourself,
>asshole" image to hit every single newby in the face when they
>innocently post a question?  Kyle's abusive rhetoric has become our
>standard.  Like it or not, you are now associated with that simply by
>being a listee.
>
>Think about it.  I bet the band members wouldn't approve of this if they
>new that every new potential listee was being verbally abused and
>insulted.
>
>And how many fan lists do any of you know of where the band members are
>continually called assholes?  95% of us don't know the band members or
>their actions.  To openly insult someone based on "grandma psychology"
>is inappropriate.
>
>Kyle, I've never met you, and I don't think that that's necessary to
>make this statement.  I don't care how nice you may be in person, or how
>loyal you are to your friends--this is my very point.  The newbies don't
>know that either--and for all practical purposes here, that isn't even
>relevant.  This list is not yours, and the things you continually say to
>people in this impersonal medium that we use are destined to be taken
>one way--whether it's your own form of childish humor or not.  If you
>had been an employee and this list your employer, you would have been
>fired long ago--because everyone of us is an agent of OtR when we post
>here.  It doesn't matter who we are or how we came here. When we send a
>post out to a new listee, then we become intrinsically associated with
>the band for that person. I am not proud to call myself a listee under
>the current circumstances.  I believe there are plenty of others who are
>feel the same way.  I just happen to be one of the few who will openly
>post my opinion. I happen to be one of the few who will risk not being
>in the "A group."
>
>Psychologically, this is all very interesting, but socially, it's very
>inappropriate.
>
>I've also decided to cc the office.
>
>I guess I've inadvertently started the "B" list...
>
>
>-M
>
>P.S.  I'm also open to others' comments, or questions, flames etc.

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