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Re: Alanis bashing.





Jillian Tully wrote:

> Kind,intelligent Bruce Lachey wrote:
>
> I don't get it.  I understand it's very "Western Culture" to rip someone
> to shreds when their personal fame clock hits 0:15, but I kinda like a
> lot of her stuff.
>
>   You hit the nail right on the head. Once someone becomes popular,
> everyone is so quick to abandon them! I've heard it right here in the
> REM argument. I've seen it happen to some Radiohead fans. Most Nirvana
> fans did that,as well as Green Day fans. Once these bands became media
> successes,the fans couldn't handle not having a "secret club" anymore.

Yeah, that does suck. I personally think it's nice when a band I love hits
it big. Provided said fame doesn't change them or make them change what
they're doing just for continued fame. But, then again, none of the artists
you listed did that. Can't really think of anyone who has right off the top
of my head, but it's been a long week... The only  thing I can think of in
the artists you listed is when radio gloms onto a certain song by an artist
and absolutely beats it into the ground. Especially when it's not the best
song on the CD (like "Karma Police" or "Come as You Are" or "What's the
Frequency, Kenneth?"). But that's not the artist's fault. I just feel like
shouting "there's 11 more songs on this CD!" The Beasties and
"Intergalactic" come to mind right now, as I've just heard it on the radio
for the 8 billionth time...

> is a pretty clever and well performed bit that essentially describes her
> last two years out of the light.  The single's well produced [maybe
> that's what turns some of you off (?!)] and is "real".

Eh. I just don't think it's a very good song... Kinda boring... As far as
the first CD is concerned, I think the production sucked. It was really
bland and flat-sounding. But, for what it's worth in this argument, I
really did like "Head Over Feet" and the last song ("Wake up"? or something
like that).

> Though I realise
> that people can have diverging musical interests from mine, it
> simultaneously baffles me as well.
>
>   What oh what oh WHAT IS IT about produced music that turns all you
> intellgent people off???? PLEASE tell me!!! I can understand a distaste
> for overly slick sterile R&B production,but it seems like anything that
> isn't stripped down,raw or extremely thoughtful is not good enough.

Not all well-produced stuff is bad. The new Hole CD is really produced, and
it's probably one of top 3 or 4 of the year. The new Garbage as well...

> This
> is why I'm scared of my own career. I know that if I released an album
> in the style of my current producer,all of y'all would probably laugh at
> me!!!

Why, what's the style of your current producer?

> I thought about Alanis after I made that post,and although I still
> shake my head at "Ironic",I'm a fan dag nabbit!!! She's cool.
>
> OK I needed to use my credit card there,that was way more than 2 cents.
> None of that was directed at anyone specific,either,and I'm still in a
> great mood. :)

:)>  I swear I really will email you back, Jillian. I didn't just send you
a phantom email and then disappear...


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