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Re: Wade Jaynes

Recalling the power of trains, Jason Andrew Newby
<Jason.A.Newby at wheaton_edu> said:
>> That's a pretty odd thing to say.   Ever heard Tony Levin?  Chris
>> Squire?  Mike Georgin?  I bet I can name 10 better melodic bass
>> players.   
>
>Sure I've heard of them.  They're all capital-B Bassists.  That's the
>charm of Wade Jaynes...he isn't so into his instrument that it would stick
>out in the mix.  

Who said anything about it sticking out in the mix?  Required
listening: King Crimson 'Discipline' (Tony Levin); Yes 'Tempus Fugit'
(Chris Squire); King Crimson 'The Talking Drum' (John Wetton); Rush
'Open Secrets' (Geddy Lee).   These are the types of examples I'm
talking about when I say "melodic bass playing"

I don't want a bassist who's going to do nothing more than play a
tonic, one-note-per-beat-*on* the-beat bass part.   If I want that,
I'd be on a Foriegner mailing list.  ;-)   

I'm not knocking Wade.  I'm familiar with his work, and I like much of
it, but nothing I've heard in his recorded output makes me think he'll
be better than Mike in OTR.   

>He's one of a very few bass players who concentrate
>solely on how the song would best be served.  

Care to elaborate on that?

>His first few live shows
>will be rough, but in a few weeks he'll be a perfect fit, musically.

I always reserve final judgement.  ;-)  After all...Jack has improved,
hasn't he?
 
>> Feh.   I'm still *very* disappointed in Mike's departure.

Just for the record, I'd like to re-state this.

Feh.   I'm still *very* disappointed in Mike's departure.

>> Jason A. Newby, you're starting to worry me.   If his playing with
>> Steve Taylor and Chagall Guevara (another Steve Taylor project) are
>> any indication, then he may prove adequate.  

>Adequate?  He's far more than adequate.  He's a listener, which is exactly
>what Linford's songs need.  

Linford's songs now?   Has it become Linford with special guests Over
The Rhine?

>Brian has always listened to the songs and
>been nothing short of perfect in giving the music what it needed.  

Could be that OTR hasn't had any other drummers, and he is definitive
in (at least) the percussive/rhythm side of OTR?

</advocatus diaboli>

>Ric never listened, 

I don't see how you can say that.

>he was always too concerned with getting his licks in.  I
>don't mean to say Ric isn't a great guitarist, I think he is, but he was
>more concerned with how his parts sounded than how the song conveyed as a
>whole.  

All right...I'm going to have to call you on this one.   Where is he
concerned with "getting his licks in"?   Is it 'Paul And Virginia'?
'Bothered'?   'I've Been Slipping'?   OTR up until 1995 (or so), was
very much a team thing.  Lots of shared songwriting credits, lots of
collaboration.  Watching them live, you could tell they enjoyed
playing together, and feeding off each other's live vibe.   Would 'If
I'm Drowning' have become the amazing show closer it did if Linford
disapproved?   The one-by-one exit ending of IID made for a very
exciting, and power change to the song.  Ric's guitar improvising was
a large part of that.  

>Thanks for giving me the consideration to read and taking the time to
>respond.  I'm a self-assured fascist when it comes to musical opinions so
>it's fun to have them challenged by someone else who knows some good names
>to drop.

More than dropping names, son....gotta know what they mean.  ;-)
Besides...ask anyone on the list.  There's nothing I like better than
a good comparison debate.

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