> I in no way implied that "defense" equals "kill." You can > use a gun to defend yourself without killing someone. Just to clarify: not legally, you can't. In the USA, at any rate, my understanding is that it is illegal to so much as point a gun at a person if you do not intend to shoot -to kill-. -- Rachel --------------- Unsubscribe by going to http://www.actwin.com/OtR/