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Feeling your pain
Twila,
I feel your pain. My wife's on business this
weekend, and I can't make to to any of the shows
in this vicinity. I'm getting a sitter for my
2-year-old son so I can attend my boss' wedding
tomorrow -- I can justify two nights in a row.
Meanwhile, Messiah College is 45 minutes away --
I pass it every time we head to my hometown --
and I am bummed.
Jeff McCloud
teamccloud at yahoo_com
>
> stamp stamp stomp.....(the sound of my feet as
> they pound mercilessly into
> the dull grey carpet of the floor that is in
> the office that has in the
> last weeks become my home due to HUGE deadlines
> forced upon me by the upper
> managment)
>
> i want to go! iwanttogo!!!!!!! i have a friend
> who i'm trying desperately
> to convince to go. he's never heard otr, but
> i've been telling him all
> about them...and he saw a picture of
> karin...and thinks she's hot....so he
> said he may go. : ) men! if any of you guys
> see a tall (probably about 6
> foot) dark-haired guy who fancies himself
> muscular (ok, he is...but don't
> tell him i said so) ...tell him twila said to
> behave. (oh yeah...his name
> is jason maust)
>
> sigh.....the woes of long hours.
>
> for those of you going...soak in the beauty for
> me.....sigh......sigh...........sigh.....
>
> i MAY get to go the pittsburgh concert on
> saturday...if i can find a
> baby-sitter for my 3 kids. any volunteers??
>
> ......sigh...........
>
>
> ~o
> _' \ <_
> (_) / (_)
> ..................twila
>
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> "Lawlor, Barry"
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> <Barry.Lawlor at ssa_gov
> To: "'Shank Zehr'" <shankzehr at yahoo_com>,
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> >
> over-the-rhine at actwin_com
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> Kirk Wrote:
>
> >>A while back some one (Barry, I think) asked
> if anyone was going to the
> show in Vienna VA tomorrow night. Well, I
> finally got the details worked
> out, and YES I'M GOING. Anybody else? I'd love
> to meet any of you folks, so
> look for me. My picture is recently added to
> the OtR listees section of the
> Photo Gallery at drewvogel.com.
>
> Yes, I will still definitely be there. I am
> looking forward to seeing Karin
> and Linford at my favorite place for a show.
>
> Anyone else?
>
>
> out here,
> Barry
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> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 11:08:30 -0500
> From: "Kylie Wilkerson"
> <kylie_wilkerson at hotmail_com>
> Subject: RE: jammin' java
>
> Twila wrote:
> >i MAY get to go the pittsburgh concert on
> saturday...if i can find a
> baby-sitter for my 3 kids. any volunteers??
>
> I *would* do it for you if I lived anywhere
> close.
>
> Wait, no I wouldn't...if I lived near you then
> I would be going to the
> concert! :) Yeah, nevermind.
>
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> kylie jo wilkerson
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> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:11:35 -0400
> From: TYoder at sschwab_com
> Subject: RE: jammin' java
>
> well....ummmm....sniff, sniff.....thanks for
> the tho't. : )
>
>
> ~o
> _' \ <_
> (_) / (_)
> ..................twila
>
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> "Kylie Wilkerson"
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> <kylie_wilkerson@hotm
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> cc: over-the-rhine at actwin_com,
> owner-over-the-rhine at actwin_com
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> "Kylie Wilkerson"
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> Twila wrote:
> >i MAY get to go the pittsburgh concert on
> saturday...if i can find a
> baby-sitter for my 3 kids. any volunteers??
>
> I *would* do it for you if I lived anywhere
> close.
>
> Wait, no I wouldn't...if I lived near you then
> I would be going to the
> concert! :) Yeah, nevermind.
>
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> kylie jo wilkerson
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:20:21 -0600 (MDT)
> From: rhys daily <shadow at teuton_org>
> Subject: RE: jammin' java
>
> > Twila wrote:
> > >i MAY get to go the pittsburgh concert on
> saturday...if i can find a
> > baby-sitter for my 3 kids. any volunteers??
>
> dear twila,
>
> please find winzip on your computer.
>
> place kids in front.
> zip
> email to me.
>
> i will unzip and entertain them for the time
> you're at the concert.
>
> then zip and send back.
> they might be a little binary and squished when
> you receive them, but
> that's cos contents settle,. a nice bath and
> run through the dryer, and
> some cookies and milk will fluff them right out
> again (:
>
> rhys
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> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:42:02 -0400
> From: OTRhine at aol_com
> Subject: Surprise, surprise
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Hope all is well. Karin and I drove to
> Hagerstown, Maryland, yesterday. We
> have concerts this evening (10/17) in Vienna,
> Virginia, tomorrow (10/18) at
> Messiah College (near Harrisburg, Pennsylvania)
> and then Saturday (10/19) in
> Pittsburgh. If you can join us, check out
> overtherhine.com for more details.
> We'd love to see you.
>
> We couldn't help but notice last night as we
> drove up to the hotel, that we
> crossed Antietam Creek. Antietam was the site
> of one of the bloodiest battles
> of the American Civil War. So we're going to
> wander around this afternoon and
> see what we can find before we head to the
> venue.
>
> We recently watched the Ken Burns documentary,
> The Civil War, and have come
> to learn that we're increasingly thirsty for
> history. Does this mean we're
> growing older? Last week, I read a book by
> James Bradley called, Flags of our
> Fathers, a true account of the six boys that
> raised the flag over Iwo Jima in
> WWII. Heartbreaking, shocking, humbling stuff.
> History does inevitably pose
> rhetorical questions to each of us: What am I
> doing with these days that I've
> been given? How will I look back on my life
> years from now? What kind of a
> person am I?
>
> Well before I wander too far off, I should get
> back to the point of this
> letter.
>
> Y'all might want to check out the special we're
> running at overtherhine.com
> between now and the end of the year.
>
> Enjoy and more later,
>
> Linford for Over the Rhine
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> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:50:15 -0400
> From: TYoder at sschwab_com
> Subject: Re: Surprise, surprise
>
> wow...hagerstown is just an hour down the road
> from me. i tho't the sun
> peeked thro' the dreariness for a second
> yesterday. welcome to the area!!
>
>
> ~o
> _' \ <_
> (_) / (_)
> ..................twila
>
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> OTRhine at aol_com
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> 10/17/2002 12:42 PM
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> OTRhine
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> Hello everyone,
>
> Hope all is well. Karin and I drove to
> Hagerstown, Maryland, yesterday. We
> have concerts this evening (10/17) in Vienna,
> Virginia, tomorrow (10/18) at
> Messiah College (near Harrisburg, Pennsylvania)
> and then Saturday (10/19)
> in
> Pittsburgh. If you can join us, check out
> overtherhine.com for more
> details.
> We'd love to see you.
>
> We couldn't help but notice last night as we
> drove up to the hotel, that we
> crossed Antietam Creek. Antietam was the site
> of one of the bloodiest
> battles
> of the American Civil War. So we're going to
> wander around this afternoon
> and
> see what we can find before we head to the
> venue.
>
> We recently watched the Ken Burns documentary,
> The Civil War, and have come
> to learn that we're increasingly thirsty for
> history. Does this mean we're
> growing older? Last week, I read a book by
> James Bradley called, Flags of
> our
> Fathers, a true account of the six boys that
> raised the flag over Iwo Jima
> in
> WWII. Heartbreaking, shocking, humbling stuff.
> History does inevitably pose
> rhetorical questions to each of us: What am I
> doing with these days that
> I've
> been given? How will I look back on my life
> years from now? What kind of a
> person am I?
>
> Well before I wander too far off, I should get
> back to the point of this
> letter.
>
> Y'all might want to check out the special we're
> running at overtherhine.com
> between now and the end of the year.
>
> Enjoy and more later,
>
> Linford for Over the Rhine
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> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:27:41 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jessica Castillo
> <jess_castillo at yahoo_com>
> Subject: The Cutting Room Floor "Special"
>
> Question?... Does anyone know if "The Cutting
> Room Floor" CD will be available at their
> shows? I pretty much have everything on the
> order list, so the "special" wouldn't do any
> good for me. Didn't someone say it'd be
> available at the Christmas Show? Please let me
> know. If this it the only way, then I guess
> I'll have to get a couple more t-shirts. :-)
>
> Waiting patiently...Jessica
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> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:54:35 -0700
> From: Steve Cunningham <stevenjc at umich_edu>
> Subject: "The Cutting Room Floor"
>
> OK guys, I'm back. Still mostly lurking, but
> hopefully I'll have more time
> to read all the messages. This semester has
> been the worst one yet
> time-wise.
>
> So I find out there's a new CD. Which rocks,
> totally made my day. Except
> I don't know how to get it. I heard something
> about them selling it at
> shows, but seeing how there aren't any Michigan
> shows (what gives?) and the
> Ohio shows coincide with finals, that isn't an
> option. And spending $30+
> isn't a good idea either, it conflicts with the
> $100 Peter Gabriel tickets,
> $60 Guns N' Roses tickets, and me planning a
> trip to Austria. :) Plus I
> have all the albums anyways, so it's tough to
> order more
> stuff...hmmmm...any info on if it will be sold
> on it's own or if it's just
> a limited run for this special?
>
> Hope everyone's having a good October :)
>
> - -Steve C.
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> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:36:58 -0400
> From: Ysobelle at aol_com
> Subject: [none]
>
> It's over. She's gone.
>
> Thank you, everyone.
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> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:35:43 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Peter T. Chattaway"
> <petert at interchange_ubc.ca>
> Subject: Re: the whole sweatshop thing
>
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Don Smith wrote:
> > This is such a thorny and knotty issue that I
> feel a little
> > uncomfortable discussing it in such an email
> forum as this, where
> > subtleties and connotations can be so easily
> lost or misconstrued.
>
> [ nod ] And I have to say I don't know whether
> to be thrilled or nervous
> now that we seem to have found a topic we
> disagree on. :)
>
> > I'm hardly an expert and can only react to
> what I've read.
>
> Same here.
>
> > First of all, let me address your concern
> about the politicizing of the
> > word "sweatshop" and limit my comments to
> *just* the tax haven EPZs.
> > What it comes down to for me is this: "better
> than the alternative",
> > even if it is true, is not good enough. It
> does not seem right to me
> > that a company can spend millions of dollars
> for a celebrity to appear
> > in their commercial, but won't spend the
> thousands it would take for the
> > people who actually make their products to
> live humanely.
>
> I really don't know how to respond to this. It
> may not seem "right" but I
> can't say it's wrong, either. The simple fact
> of the matter is, the
> celebrity is worth more to the company than any
> individual labourer, and
> thus, the celebrity is paid more. I do not
> believe there is something
> inherently wrong with the inequal distribution
> of wealth, per se, and even
> if I did, there is simply no way to distribute
> wealth equally anyway.
> Heck, it's practically a mathematical *law*
> that wealth will be unequally
> distributed across all cultures, regardless of
> political make-up.
>
>
http://www.newscientist.com/features/features.jsp?id=ns225217
>
> (That URL is no longer active, but you can find
> the pertinent article by
> punching that URL into the archives at
> web.archive.org.)
>
> > You wrote: "then clearly, they are working at
> the so-called sweat-shop
> > because they can't find better work anywhere
> else -- and is that really
> > the company's fault?" I don't think that is
> anywhere near clear. First
> > of all, you are assuming that these people
> are cognizant of all the
> > choices available to them, and are able to
> act on those options, which
> > from what I've read is often not the case.
>
> I am not necessarily assuming that. I
> certainly don't think *I'm* fully
> cognizant of all the choices available to *me*.
> And yet I make choices.
>
> > It also assumes that those choices can be
> made in a pressure-free
> > environment, which is often not the case,
> given the realities of
> > government corruption and military power.
>
> No, I am not assuming that, either -- in fact,
> I assume anybody who would
> choose to work at a "sweat-shop" would do so in
> response to all sorts of
> pressures in his or her life. I certainly
> don't think working at a
> "sweat-shop" is the sort of thing anybody would
> do for *fun*.
>
> > If your traditional livelihood is farming,
> but Shell Oil has polluted
> > your family's land to the point where it
> can't sustain life, and if you
> > complain to the government about it, you get
> killed because they don't
> > want to lose the lucrative Shell contracts
> (same with Chevron), is it
> > really fair to ask "is it the company's
> fault?" that you don't have
> > other options than cheap manufacturing labor,
> as if these things are
> > completely unrelated to each other?
>
> No, it would not be fair to ask that, if Shell
> was flooding my farm *and*
> Shell was running the "sweat-shop" where I
> found employment afterwards.
> But what if the company that runs the
> "sweat-shop" is not the same company
> that flooded my farm? Is it fair to blame the
> corporation for my woes
> even if it is not the corporation that caused
> my woes? If so, why?
>
> > If the lucrative contracts weren't going to
> support corrupt governemts
> > like in Burma or Columbia (where government
> death squads have killed
> > workers trying to unionize in Coca-cola
> factories), maybe the people
> > could get real land reform and start finding
> better options for
> > themselves.
>
> Government corruption is a big problem, sure.
> FWIW, the stories that have
> been horrifying me the most lately have been
> the stories coming out of
> Africa (Zimbabwe etc.). My father grew up
> there, so I tend to hear about
> those more than others; perhaps I should be
> paying more attention to other
> countries, too. But I'm not about to condemn
> what goes on in Thailand
> (which is where the NYT authors were based, and
> which is where my
> missionary friend worked) because of what goes
> on in other countries.
>
> > I think that article, as written, is totally
> making a
> > post-hoc-propter-hoc argument with respect to
> the prosperities of
> > various Asian countries. It may well be
> true, but the conclusion is
> > *not* justified by the data they give in the
> article.
>
> Sorry, you lost me on "post-hoc-propter-hoc".
> :)
>
> > My thoughts are rushing much much faster than
> I can type over this ISDN
> > line from the mountaintop in Australia, so I
> will just leave it with
> > this: whatever the convoluted economic and
> political theories and
> > statistics might be to argue this way or that
> on the issue, for me the
> > basic issue is very simple: do unto others as
> you would have done unto
> > you.
>
> For me, it's always been a tad more complicated
> than that: do unto others
> as they would have you do unto them. Not
> necessarily the same thing.
>
> > I would not want to be treated as those
> people are treated. I can't say
> > "well, yes, they house workers in firetraps,
> expose children to
> > dangerous chemicals, deny bathroom breaks,
> demand sexual favors, force
> > people to work double shifts or dismiss
> anyone who tries to organize a
> > union... *but*..." there is no "but" that
> can justify that list.
>
> I don't think anybody here has said that there
> *is* a "but" that can
> justify that list. The authors of that NYT
> article cite these as things
> that need to be worked on, as things that need
> to be changed. But they
> see change as something that is achieved from
> within the system -- and
> they argue that boycotting products made in
> "sweat-shops" will have the
> effect not of improving the system, but of
> shutting it down.
>
> To quote the entire paragraph from which you
> took those words:
>
>
>
http://www.topica.com/lists/dadl-ot/read/message.html?mid=801553511
>
> This is not to praise sweatshops. Some
> managers are brutal in the way
> they house workers in firetraps, expose
> children to dangerous
> chemicals, deny bathroom breaks, demand
> sexual favors, force people to
> work double shifts or dismiss anyone who
> tries to organize a union.
> Agitation for improved safety conditions can
> be helpful, just as it was
> in 19th-century Europe. But Asian workers
> would be aghast at the idea
> of American consumers boycotting certain
> toys or clothing in protest.
> The simplest way to help the poorest Asians
> would be to buy more from
> sweatshops, not less.
>
> No one is saying we should *justify* these
> sorts of practices. No one is
> trying to "praise" sweatshops, and no one is
> denying that "some managers
> are brutal" or that "agitation ... can be
> helpful".
>
> > Whether it's better to buy fewer products
> from such places or more I do
> > not know, but I simply cannot rationalize the
> status quo.
>
> Luckily, no one's asking you to!
>
> - --- Peter T. Chattaway
> --------------------------- peter at chattaway_com
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> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:25:10 -0400
> From: Ysobelle at aol_com
> Subject: [none]
>
> It's over. She's gone.
>
> Thank you, everyone.
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> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:24:05 -0400
> From: "Chris Queen" <cqueen at tmsmail_net>
> Subject: RE: i love johnny cash
>
> Ummmmm, yeah... :-)
>
> Chris
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-over-the-rhine at actwin_com
> > [mailto:owner-over-the-rhine at actwin_com]On
> Behalf Of Kylie Wilkerson
> > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:40 AM
> > To: over-the-rhine at actwin_com
> > Subject: RE: i love johnny cash
> >
> >
> > Chris wrote:
> > >So...how does the Man in Black fit into the
> equation?
> >
> > Well, we're doin mighty fine I do suppose. In
> our streak of lightin cars,
> > and fancy clothes.
> >
> > :)
> >
> >
> > get rhythm.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > kylie jo wilkerson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 23:43:40 -0400
> From: "Barry S. Lawlor" <blawlor at cox_net>
> Subject: Jammin' Java Show (Actual OtR
> Content)...no really....I promise!
>
> Although I have Karin's set list for the show
> tonight sitting right in front
> of me I feel like I need to let Kirk post the
> set list; he worked so much
> harder at it than I did and deserves the honor.
> He scribbled down the songs
> in the dark; and I just stepped on the stage
> and snagged it (no fear he got
> Linford's set list). So he is more than likely
> on his way back down to
> Harrisonburg as I am getting ready to sleep
> (Kirk, I expect the full set
> list posted for these fine folks when you get a
> chance).
>
> All this to say it was a great performance at
> my favorite place to see a
> show www.jamminjava.com (owned by
> http://www.lukebrindley.com and his
> brother Daniel check them out). Karin's voice
> is just as amazing as
> always....what more can one say about that? I
> sat here for a few minutes
> thinking what to write about the show w/o the
> set list or what wrote on the
> set list and all I came up with was "she has an
> amazing voice", ugh.
>
> It was interesting to see them as a
> duo.....there was a different kind of
> energy from the other shows I've been to (this
> makes my 3 1/4 shows). Not
> bad, just a different energy, I kinda liked
> it.....especially in a smaller
> venue like Jammin Java.
>
> Ohh and in my CD player as I type is 'The
> Cutting Room
> Floor'.....hmmm....this is harder than I
> thought to post actual OtR content.
> I think I will stop now. Hey Steve (UncleBoo),
> Angels in the Series? Huh?
> Huh? Didn't see that one coming did ya?
>
> And for all of y'all who get to see OtR and
> Bill Mallonee and the Trophy
> Wives tommorow night in one fell swoop I am
> insanely jealous.
>
> Out here,
> Barry
>
> NP OtR 'The Cutting Room Floor'
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> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 00:08:18 -0400
> From: Ysobelle at aol_com
> Subject: [none]
>
> It's over. She's gone.
>
> Thank you, everyone.
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 05:22:26 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Don Smith
> <dasmith at rotse2_physics.lsa.umich.edu>
> Subject: On a mountaintop
>
> Greetings, programs,
>
> Well, my wanderings are on hold for a bit. I
> am on a moutaintop about 400 km
> Northwest of Sydney. Near a town called
> Coonabarabran, if you want to try to
> find it on a map. Which means I am finally
> getting the opportunity to transfer
> my photographs from the last few weeks over to
> a web server. It's going to
> take a little while, because the whole
> observatory just has one ISDN line, and
> I don't want to clog it up with my photos, but
> I should have everything
> transferred over the next couple of days. I do
> have the first week or so up
> now, so if you want to see a photo of me
> holding a wombat, head over to my
> home page and click on "photo album".
>
> The scenery around here is gorgeous. The
> observatory is built on an ancient
> volcano crater. Apparently there's a "hot
> spot" in the earth's crust, and
> every so often it flares up to the surface.
> Since Australia is sliding
> northward along that surface, there's a widely
> spaced line of volcanos marking
> where the hot spot has been. Now it's all
> heavily forested, and I'm looking
> forward to doing some hiking. There are
> kangaroos all over the place, and
> this afternoon there was even a wallaby just
> outside the window. I have to
> say though, roos look all cute and adorable
> during the day, but at night they
> can be rather startling.
>
> I hope this message finds you well, and I
> apologize for the form letter, but
> if you write to me and tell me what you think
> of the photos, I promise to
> write back. :-)
>
> Fiat pax,
> - --
> Don Smith Robotic
> Optical Transient Search Experiment
> donaldas at umich_edu
> http://xte.mit.edu/~dasmith/
>
> Murphy's Law of Thermodynamics: Things get
> worse under pressure.
>
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