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Re: JIN-ROH and LoTR

I view movies as a temporary escape for sure, but I think their real 
intention is to tell a story that one can relate to, learn from and 
hopefully respond to in the real world.  If a movie doesn't stimulate me to 
some sort of action within a week of having seen it then I'd wish I hadn't.


>From: "The Mattrix" <soberman_69 at hotmail_com>
>Reply-To: "The Mattrix" <soberman_69 at hotmail_com>
>To: over-the-rhine at actwin_com
>Subject: Re: JIN-ROH and LoTR
>Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 02:55:53 -0500
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>>From: Gilhamilton at aol_com
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>><< Peter:
>>  >Ah, but *are* movies about "escapism"?
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>>da Mattrix
>>  Sometimes.  Or always- even the most gripping or depressing or
>>philosophical
>>  film takes us away rom our own limited reality for a few dozen mintes or
>>so.
>>    If we are reflecting on the lives of other characters, whether real or
>>  imagined, are we not escaping our own, personal life reflections?
>>   If I may interject one thing here. I would say the idea that naming
>>anything
>>that takes you outside yourself as *escapist*  is a misnomer.
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>Okay, but why?  I mean, I agree if we are talking about the astral plane or
>out of body experiences, but we are not.  ;-)  So, please elaborate.
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>Isn't that
>>pretty much the object of all art? To carry you outside of yourself into
>>something *other* for a while.  Is all art escapist?
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>While I see your point, I tend to believe it is to a degree.  More or less.
>I think we create or partake of art to "escpae" the pain of everyday
>existence in a constructive or intellectual manner.  (Interestingly,
>JIN-ROH's creator, Mamoru Oshii, seems to think we, the race of men, create
>to compensate for our inablilty to bear  children.)  However, I've never
>really affirmed that belief during this thread just posited it.  It makes
>for an interesting discussion.
>
>I think you have to look
>>at it person to person and day to day. True, some people watch a movie,
>>read
>>a book, listen to music on a given day only to escape their particular
>>reality for a while but on another day they may do the same in order to
>>venture into anothers story to get a bigger picture of life than they 
>>could
>>get otherwise and also to bring back something from there to apply and
>>understand themselves better.
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>Agreed.  I do that all the time.  However, with movies in particular, I
>don't think people truly start to reflect upon the purpose and meaning 
>until
>the credits start to roll.  I mean, you can think about these things during
>the film, but your ideas are only validated if the movie carries them
>through until the end.  Many movies start out apparently going in one
>direction, and then abruptly veer off into different ones.  Sometimes, the
>ending is the event the shatters all your preconceived notions.  Its just
>safer to let the movie take you for a ride, rather than try to figure the
>desination throughout.
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>For that reason, I tend not to think too deeply about a film until later.
>During the movie, I just tend to allow myself to get lost in the unfolding
>narrative.  That's escap..er, entertainment!
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>Now, if your talkin' about revisting a film that "spoke to you" initially, 
>I
>still think some escapism is going on at some level, but it really depends
>on the film and the person, as well as the circumstances, as you've said.
>
>Really, Kev (may I call you that?), I find escaping from reality very easy.
>Perhaps I'm just simple-minded?  I could look at those swinging ball things
>on a desktop and get lost in the perpetual motion.  I'm like a cat in that
>regard.
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>>You get what you want going
>>in, if you just want a bit of escapism that's what you get if you want
>>someting more, you may get something more.
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>All I want is my MTV.
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>lost in space,
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>Matt - y
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>np Ghostwriters -Fibromoon
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