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Re: a fly on my pastor's ass

actually...if you read the bible (calling christianity, catholicism and a handful of others "major religions", it states that faith inand of itself is nothing.  have all the faith you wish in government, people, good will, string cheese, el caminos and you get nothing of importance.  the object of faith is the "power" you speak of.  just for clarification of what all the major religions offer.
 
powdered it up...what the hell is that?
  jay
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: kevin c. taylor
To: eadsj at qwest_net ; waytogojane at hotmail_com ; Over-the-Rhine at actwin_com
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: a fly on my pastor's ass

Who said I was a christian?  You guys jump to a-lot of conclusions.  But I know the power of faith.   All the major religions teach that.  Faith is the key to see past your self  and be free.   If I would have powdered it up for you guys like that in the first place maybe your panties would be unwaded.

>From: "jay and jenna eads"
>Reply-To: "jay and jenna eads"
>To: "kevin c. taylor" , ,
>Subject: Re: a fly on my pastor's ass
>Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 20:22:30 -0800
>
>what an un-Christlike attitude. must be hard to see people when you can't see past you own glorious reflection in the pool, Narcissus.
>
> jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kevin c. taylor
> To: waytogojane at hotmail_com ; Over-the-Rhine at actwin_com
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: a fly on my pastor's ass
>
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> why is anti-faith always so hip? people must love watered down whininess of prodigals. I'm not impressed.
>
> I guess it's hard to see God when you can't see past your nose. Which would explain the pessimism.
>
> ~kT
>
>
>
> >From: "jillian tully"
> >Reply-To: "jillian tully"
> >To: Over-the-Rhine at actwin_com
> >Subject: a fly on my pastor's ass
> >Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:42:32 -0600
> >
> >question: am i the *only* knob on this list, or are there others
> >hiding?
> >*laughs*
> >
> >anyway, i've been reading this discussion, and it truly amazes me
> >how
> >intelligent all you folk are...how do you get that way? i want to be
> >like
> >all of you.
> >
> >i've left the christian ghetto and made something of myself in the
> >world...it feels lovely. yet i can't help looking back and worrying
> >about my
> >friends still trapped in there. personally, i still believe in god,
> >in the
> >loosest interpretation of what the word is...but i'm still unsure as
> >to
> >*what*, forget *who*...god is. my reasons for believing in a supreme
> >being
> >most likely stem from my insistence that "there has to be something
> >else out
> >there".
> >
> >however, i find it ridiculous to label inanimate objects with a word
> >reserved for followers and believers in the divinity of a man who
> >walked the
> >earth giving lectures 2,000 years ago. i find it ridiculous that
> >people seek
> >out things that are painted up and marketed to them, with promises
> >of a
> >"better spiritual life", or "less blocks to stumble over".
> >
> >if christianity began with christ, then why do people insist on
> >calling
> >these modern fire-and-brimstone authors the gospel, in their own
> >ranting,
> >raving "this-book-changed-my-life" kind of way? i've *read* some of
> >those
> >books, and while i enjoyed a couple, and c.s. lewis is still one of
> >my
> >favourite authors, none of them gave me the desire to "sell out for
> >jesus",
> >or any catchphrase you want to insert here. none of them made me
> >want to
> >throw out my tori amos cd's and tear down my rocky horror picture
> >show
> >poster. no music made me swap all my tight shirts for t-shirts that
> >say "got
> >jesus?".
> >
> >no cliquey youth group or college ministry has ever had the answers
> >to my
> >questions, and they consistently LOOK OVER THE THINGS YOU ALL ARE
> >TALKING
> >ABOUT! constantly batting away discrepancies in writings and truths
> >and
> >things people cannot bring themselves to believe like a cow swishing
> >flies
> >off its ass. is that how my pastors and bible study leaders see me?
> >as a fly
> >on their ass? what kind of christian love and understanding and
> >openmindedness is THAT?
> >
> >anyway...sorry to take up space with my severely uneducated words.
> >we now
> >return to our scheduled program, already in progress...
> >
> >jillian.
> >there's only cliches to get across this feeling. - frente
> >
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