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Re: a fly on my pastor's ass

unfortunately it seems you've experienced only the "bad" side of the
"Christian world"...but there is more and better out there.  don't give up
on the "who" of God.  I am not going to convolute my email with reasonings
and catchphrases, since they don't mean much anyway.
not to be a jerk, but a lot of time people hide behind "ultra intelligent"
words to hide the fact that despite their long winding oratory...they don't
have it figured out, either.  welcome to the world of imperfect seeking
people...you sound plenty smart to me Jillian Tully.  have a great weekend,
hope I hear from you on this list again.

        jay


----- Original Message -----
From: "jillian tully" <waytogojane at hotmail_com>
To: <Over-the-Rhine at actwin_com>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 10:42 AM
Subject: a fly on my pastor's ass


> question: am i the *only* knob on this list, or are there others hiding?
> *laughs*
>
> anyway, i've been reading this discussion, and it truly amazes me how
> intelligent all you folk are...how do you get that way? i want to be like
> all of you.
>
> i've left the christian ghetto and made something of myself in the
> world...it feels lovely. yet i can't help looking back and worrying about
my
> friends still trapped in there. personally, i still believe in god, in the
> loosest interpretation of what the word is...but i'm still unsure as to
> *what*, forget *who*...god is. my reasons for believing in a supreme being
> most likely stem from my insistence that "there has to be something else
out
> there".
>
> however, i find it ridiculous to label inanimate objects with a word
> reserved for followers and believers in the divinity of a man who walked
the
> earth giving lectures 2,000 years ago. i find it ridiculous that people
seek
> out things that are painted up and marketed to them, with promises of a
> "better spiritual life", or "less blocks to stumble over".
>
> if christianity began with christ, then why do people insist on calling
> these modern fire-and-brimstone authors the gospel, in their own ranting,
> raving "this-book-changed-my-life" kind of way? i've *read* some of those
> books, and while i enjoyed a couple, and c.s. lewis is still one of my
> favourite authors, none of them gave me the desire to "sell out for
jesus",
> or any catchphrase you want to insert here. none of them made me want to
> throw out my tori amos cd's and tear down my rocky horror picture show
> poster. no music made me swap all my tight shirts for t-shirts that say
"got
> jesus?".
>
> no cliquey youth group or college ministry has ever had the answers to my
> questions, and they consistently LOOK OVER THE THINGS YOU ALL ARE TALKING
> ABOUT! constantly batting away discrepancies in writings and truths and
> things people cannot bring themselves to believe like a cow swishing flies
> off its ass. is that how my pastors and bible study leaders see me? as a
fly
> on their ass? what kind of christian love and understanding and
> openmindedness is THAT?
>
> anyway...sorry to take up space with my severely uneducated words. we now
> return to our scheduled program, already in progress...
>
> jillian.
> there's only cliches to get across this feeling. - frente
>
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