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Hey all...I'm going to be in Cincinatti for the Youth Specialties Conference
representing True Tunes Records and I was wondering if OTR or any other cool
shows were going on between November 18-21st? By the way...we just signed
VOL to release Audible Sigh some time in March 2000...but don't tell...it's
a secret. Baron
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Over-The-Rhine Digest Thursday, November 4 1999 Volume 02 : Number 842
In this issue:
RE: Dec 11
RE: Dec 11
Re: Dec 11
no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
Re: Dec 11
Re: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
I'm new but...
Re: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
RE: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
Re: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
Re: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
Re: I'm new but...
Re: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
RE: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
RE: I'm new but...
RE: I'm new but...
Vol, Kelsey, Its goofy to be here
Re: I'm new but...
Re: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
Re: I'm new but...
VoL vs OtR
Dec 11th show tickets (pair) for sale...
RE: I'm new but...
Re: Dec 11th show tickets (pair) for sale...
Re: I'm new but...
Re: I'm new but...
Re: VoL vs OtR
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 05:08:21 -0500
From: "Kyle Howe" <howe.38 at osu_edu>
Subject: RE: Dec 11
>and i was just beginning to think kyle had disappeared from the face of the
>earth...
you apes are not that lucky.
kyle
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:15:35 -0500
From: "Kyle Howe" <howe.38 at osu_edu>
Subject: RE: Dec 11
Humor impaired are we?
Who are "we" ? there is no "we" here, you bloody idiot, my humor is just
fine, don't know about yours though.
kyle
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:33:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Eric Eisert <e2 at iglou_com>
Subject: Re: Dec 11
Humor impaired are we?
On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Sir Not Quite So Brave As Sir Lancelot wrote:
> > Resist zero population growth. There are enough zeros in the world
> > already.
>
> what the fuck is wrong with you uneducated ape shit. would you like to be
> packed in like sardines and wallow in your own excrements? because that
is
> the end result if the world population grows as it does now. why don't
you
> go play in the road in front of that big snow plow or something and save
> your place in the population curve for someone else.
>
>
> kyle
>
>
>
Resist zero population growth. There are enough zeros in the world
already.
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:35:19 -0500
From: Alfred B Johnson <hoopyfrood at juno_com>
Subject: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
quoth sir not quite so eloquent--
>i am not in the mood for mythologies right now, and the Revelation is
>nothing more than part of the Hebrew Mythologies, no more valid or
>applicable to present day life than Greek's or Egyptian's fairy tales.
1) Yes, John, who had/wrote Revelation, was Jewish.
2) Yes, the Revelation claims to be a culmination of Jewish prophecies.
3) No, present day Jews do not claim it, unless they've come over to the
Jesus side of things; and then terminology just gets really complicated.
<elvis>So why'd ya pick the word "Hebrew," dummy.</elvis>
As for "mythology." Hmmm. I'm on the digest, ya know, so maybe somebody
else jumped on this already and there's some angry exchange going on
right now, etc etc etc. I just don't know what's going on, is all.
So. Here's me. This doesn't make me mad.
But if you want to talk down an important bit of the faith of a whole lot
of very intelligent people on this list, be respectful. I suspect that
most of us Christians (at least here) do not come to acceptance of the
Revelation anywhere near FIRST. There's a huge belief structure
underneath that. And you just wrote that whole beautiful structure off
as Hebrew mythology.
It was smug in that too-cool-for-thought way. Which is poseur rhetoric,
buddy.
But since you presented your argument the way you did, what I should have
said from the first was just:
"No it's not."
reply: "Yes it is."
reply: "No it's not."
reply: "Yes it is."
And so on.
lost in the supermarket,
Fred
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:09:07 EST
From: "Sarah Sanzenbacher GS|DCB" <SANZENBACHER at novell_chem.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: Dec 11
If there is one thing Kyle is not, it is humor-impaired...Except
right now when he is sick....Sarah
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:12:27 EST
From: "Sarah Sanzenbacher GS|DCB" <SANZENBACHER at novell_chem.utk.edu>
Subject: Re: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
The only thing I want to ask about the term "Hebrew mythology" is-
was the Bible written in Hebrew? I kind of thought so but then
again...Sarah
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 08:39:24 PST
From: "jason m." <sage07 at hotmail_com>
Subject: I'm new but...
What are you talking about? You people are crazy! I joined this list to
talk about other Over the Rhine fans. Obviously I am in the wrong place!
Is there anyone here who likes the band Over the Rhine?
jason
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:43:31 EST
From: Toggedout at aol_com
Subject: Re: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
In a message dated 11/3/99 11:33:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
SANZENBACHER at novell_chem.utk.edu writes:
<< The only thing I want to ask about the term "Hebrew mythology" is-
was the Bible written in Hebrew? I kind of thought so but then
again...Sarah
>>
the bible was written in hebrew (ot) and greek (nt), although the nt was
written in greek from the spoken aramaic word, which serves for interesting
ideas about translation and idioms etc....
that i know this makes me wonder who i am
tim
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:02:28 -0500
From: "Kyle Howe" <howe.38 at osu_edu>
Subject: RE: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
>But if you want to talk down an important bit of the faith of a whole lot
>of very intelligent people on this list,
hmm...I don't know... I've found sparks of sentience not to mention
intelligence few and far in between on this particular list.
kyle
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 08:43:19 PST
From: "Amy Joy Eversole" <amy_smiley at hotmail_com>
Subject: Re: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
>The only thing I want to ask about the term "Hebrew mythology" is-
>was the Bible written in Hebrew? I kind of thought so but then
>again...Sarah
i believe the old testament was written in hebrew, and the new testament in
greek. however, a few new testament books may have been written in aramaic.
fred? do you know for sure?
it's nice to see kyle back in action, and sarah back to defending him! ;)
- --amy joy
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:38:27 -0500
From: Alfred B Johnson <hoopyfrood at juno_com>
Subject: Re: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:12:27 EST "Sarah Sanzenbacher GS|DCB"
<SANZENBACHER at novell_chem.utk.edu> writes:
> The only thing I want to ask about the term "Hebrew mythology" is-
> was the Bible written in Hebrew? I kind of thought so but then
> again...Sarah
Old Testament Hebrew. New Testament Greek.
Yup.
Peace out.
Fred
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:09:48 EST
From: Creole1239 at aol_com
Subject: Re: I'm new but...
yes i love Over The Rhine, their music, and their CD packaging. will you be
attending the OTR Christmas show this year at the Taft Theater?
Christopher F.
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:01:54 -0500
From: Alfred B Johnson <hoopyfrood at juno_com>
Subject: Re: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
Kile sed --
> hmm...I don't know... I've found sparks of sentience not to mention
> intelligence few and far in between on this particular list.
Hoody hoody hoo.
Blah blah blah.
Zoinks.
:)
You comin' to the Upland show or what?
Fred
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:41:40 -0700
From: Gabe Cooper <gabcoo at symix_com>
Subject: RE: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
Just an FYI.
NT mostly Greek(translated from some Aramaic, some Hebrew, some
Greek) but some NT is in Hebrew(ie Matthew). It all depends on the audience.
<<i believe the old testament was written in hebrew, and the new testament
in
greek. however, a few new testament books may have been written in aramaic.
fred? do you know for sure?>>
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:51:28 -0500
From: "Kyle Howe" <howe.38 at osu_edu>
Subject: RE: I'm new but...
>What are you talking about? You people are crazy! I joined this list to
>talk about other Over the Rhine fans. Obviously I am in the wrong place!
>Is there anyone here who likes the band Over the Rhine?
Hey you little boy, you just sit there and look stupid for now, when we
want your opinion, we'll give it to ya.
kyle
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:58:01 -0500
From: "Kyle Howe" <howe.38 at osu_edu>
Subject: RE: I'm new but...
>I joined this list to
>talk about other Over the Rhine fans.
On second reading, the boy apparently is also a gossip, how many OtR fans
do you know anyway so you can talk ABOUT them????
kyle
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 16:17:57 EST
From: "Coyote Lazarus" <coyote_laz at hotmail_com>
Subject: Vol, Kelsey, Its goofy to be here
Ok, so you've put 2+2 and made five-
Yes- Nov.12th at the Brady, Michael Kelsey will be at the Brady and the
following night- Nov.13 (a friday and saturday) Vigilantes of Love will be
here. The next night- Vol will be playing a wonderful dive in the coventry
neighbor hood of cleveland called the Grog Shop.
In other News- This Friday night at the Brady Chirs Carter and Andy Stephan
(both formerly of the Twistoffs- now of Stankfoot) will be playing the
Brady. Is this Good? Damn Good. for you local Kelsey fans and This is a show
not to miss. Carter maybe the only guitar/bassist I know of that could keep
up with Kelsey (who is IMprobably unpopularHO better at what he does than
Ric.
Carter is more based in biting original material, though he does pull a
nod to Ani Di Franco and a mind blowing take on Amazing grace. Tommy the cat
I have seen him play in his sleep, and play well.
Later on for you locals there is the monthly poetry reading on the 19th,
followed by local/english blues legend Mr.Downchild on the 20th. Why he's
playing this dive I have no idea. But that'll be a good night also.
I'll go back to my book now and see you soon
(the now rather introvert)
D.M.
(but still THE d.m.
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 23:49:09 +0200
From: Amy Tompkins <aet at mail_dntcj.ro>
Subject: Re: I'm new but...
Kyle Howe wrote:
> >What are you talking about? You people are crazy! I joined this list to
> >talk about other Over the Rhine fans. Obviously I am in the wrong place!
> >Is there anyone here who likes the band Over the Rhine?
>
> Hey you little boy, you just sit there and look stupid for now, when we
> want your opinion, we'll give it to ya.
hey, don't get intimidated by Kyle. :-)
Amy
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 23:48:21 +0200
From: Amy Tompkins <aet at mail_dntcj.ro>
Subject: Re: no it's not. yes it is. no it's not.
Gabe Cooper wrote:
> Just an FYI.
> NT mostly Greek(translated from some Aramaic, some Hebrew, some
> Greek) but some NT is in Hebrew(ie Matthew). It all depends on the
audience.
hey speaking of. What about Hebrews? Was it written to Hebrews and in Evraic
(oh
sorry, hebrew)?
Amy
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 23:44:13 +0200
From: Amy Tompkins <aet at mail_dntcj.ro>
Subject: Re: I'm new but...
jason m. wrote:
> What are you talking about? You people are crazy! I joined this list to
> talk about other Over the Rhine fans. Obviously I am in the wrong place!
> Is there anyone here who likes the band Over the Rhine?
it's okay. relax. be nice, sit down, enjoy a cup of coffee, or whatever
floats
your boat.
YES we love OtR that is our common thread and if you bring up and OtR
subject we
will jump on it as much as we can. But see, many of us have been on this
list a
long time, me for *gasp* nearly 2 years. And therefore the typical OtR
conversations have worn down some, so we have moved on and we talk abou
tanything and everything.
But we love OtR. You bring up topic, question, etc we will post OtR related
material. If there is a concert we will. etc. etc. etc.
Amy
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:55:28 -0600
From: Candace Elder <CElder at providence_mb.ca>
Subject: VoL vs OtR
Okay, so, the big news on the VoL homefront is that Kenny Hutson has
officially left the band. Dang that sucks.
I was just thinking though...after hearing this news, I wasn't angry so much
as dissappointed and sympathetic...sympathetic to Bill Mallonee and the band
and wanting to encourage them and know that no matter what, with them, it
seems to just keep getting better.
OtR on the other...when I heard the news that Ric was leaving, I was kinda
ticked off and some of that anger was directed towards Linford. When I
settled into the fact that he was gone, I realized that was probably better
for Ric, but I don't know if I thought that was better for OtR. And then
Mike, now Brian...the same process....
Throughout all that though, I don't know if I ever felt sympathetic towards
Linford, Karin or the band. Why is that? Where does the difference come
in? Both VoL and OtR have frequently changed line ups, yet, there seems to
be a completely different attitude with the changes. Am I alone on this?
Are there any parallels to be drawn here or not?
Thinking out load...for once
Candace
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:58:37 -0600
From: "Marc Brooks" <lucis at msn_com>
Subject: Dec 11th show tickets (pair) for sale...
My date cancelled on me for the Dec 11th show, and I can't justify the trip
from St. Louis alone.
Thus one of you lucky people can abscond with my tickets for face value of
$30 (I paid $45). The seats are: Section Floor Left Center Row G Seats 7 -
8
Bumming,
Marc
mailto:lucis at fehq_org
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:07:17 -0500
From: "Kyle Howe" <howe.38 at osu_edu>
Subject: RE: I'm new but...
>hey, don't get intimidated by Kyle. :-)
no, by all means, be intimidated by Kyle, its much easier that way :)
kyle
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:11:47 EST
From: Ponybat at aol_com
Subject: Re: Dec 11th show tickets (pair) for sale...
In a message dated 11/4/99, lucis at msn_com writes:
> My date cancelled on me for the Dec 11th show, and I can't justify the
trip
> from St. Louis alone
hey marc.
aww.
suck it up and go alone. the show's worth it. it isn't that far from st.
louis . . . i'll be coming from oklahoma.
don't wuss out, boy!
stef
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 02:46:41 GMT
From: chris.emery at ecoutlook_com (Chris Emery)
Subject: Re: I'm new but...
Dancing on a volcano, "jason m." <sage07 at hotmail_com> said:
>What are you talking about? You people are crazy! I joined this list to
>talk about other Over the Rhine fans. Obviously I am in the wrong place!
>Is there anyone here who likes the band Over the Rhine?
Over The Rhine? Who's that?
I thought the purpose of this list was to discuss existentialism with
Kyle and Dave Cousineau.
~C
- --
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:23:51 -0500
From: "Sir Not Quite So Brave As Sir Lancelot" <howe.38 at osu_edu>
Subject: Re: I'm new but...
>
> Over The Rhine? Who's that?
>
> I thought the purpose of this list was to discuss existentialism with
> Kyle and Dave Cousineau.
>
i think therefore i am or i am therefore i think?
i think therefore i am on crack or i think i am on crack--per Sarah (the
chemist of dubious synthesis)
any synthetic drug requests? anyone? anyone? bueller?
kyle
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:18:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Rick Callender <binkmeisterrick at yahoo_com>
Subject: Re: VoL vs OtR
- --- Candace Elder <CElder at providence_mb.ca> wrote:
> Both VoL and OtR have frequently changed line
> ups, yet, there seems to
> be a completely different attitude with the changes.
I think the difference lies in that Vigilantes of Love
has always been, and will always be, Bill Mallonee.
It's been his ship from the beginning. I even remember
a joke in a liner note or interview a long, long time
ago which stated that at a certain show most of the
audience probably consisted of people who had been in
the band at one time or another.
OtR, on the other hand, started out being known as a
band with a band identity. So when the lineup
dramatically changed, so did the identity of the band
to a certain extent. When it began to dawn/change as
being a "Linford as Queen Mum" thing (although I could
never see Linford in pearls, a yellow dress, and a
pill box hat) attention seemed to shift from a "band"
identity into "somebody's band" with an identity. I
don't think the transition ever was a very smooth one,
as far as some long-time fans are concerned.
I've grown to expect a different lineup everytime I
see VoL, but I'd like to see some stability with OtR.
Oh, by the way, did I mention I get to open for VoL on
the 13th at Brady's? Maybe Bill will make me the next
member of the band! HA!
bink
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