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From: Over-The-Rhine Digest <Owner-Over-The-Rhine at actwin_com>
To: Over-The-Rhine-Digest at actwin_com <Over-The-Rhine-Digest at actwin_com>
Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 9:09 PM
Subject: Over-The-Rhine Digest V2 #744
>
>Over-The-Rhine Digest Friday, August 20 1999 Volume 02 : Number 744
>
>
>
>In this issue:
>
> Re: Not OtR, but you just might like 'em....
> @@@@ Jump Little Children; no OTR
> Re: Quickly Re: Everything
> Re: Quickly Re: Everything
> Re: Over-The-Rhine Digest V2 #743
> "Let this serve as warning" (grey crayon on monitor)
> Re: Neil Finn/Crowded House
> Re: Neil Finn / Crowded House
> AMY'S LAST DAY OF WORK!!!!!
> RE: gone fishin'
> RE: @@@@ Jump Little Children; no OTR
> RE: Neil Finn/Crowded House
> RE: gone fishin'
> RE: gone fishin'
> RE: gone fishin'
> driven by useless thoughts?
> RE: driven by useless thoughts?
> Re: driven by useless thoughts?
> RE: driven by useless thoughts?
> Re: Neil Finn/Crowded House
> monk: zero; post office: one. (no otr.)
> otr at hillsdale college, august twenty-third.
> Re: Chasing Furies, Caedmon's...
> Re: @@@@ Jump Little Children; no OTR
> Black Hole
> Re: Neil Finn/Crowded House
> Black Hole revised
>
>See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the
>Over-The-Rhine mailing list and on how to retrieve back issues.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 06:02:45 -0400
>From: "GLASSFORD,JOHN" <jglassford at neo_rr.com>
>Subject: Re: Not OtR, but you just might like 'em....
>
>hi.
>
>KTB writes
>> > Well, it turns out that during the concert the lead singer
>> >girl looks at my friend sitting next to me (who is wearing the
>> >Patience clock shirt) and between songs says, "Hey, that's a nice
>> >shirt." So we wondered for the rest of the concert, do you think
>> >they even know who Over the Rhine is?
>
>
>i had the same thing happen at the Pretenders' gig last week. same shirt.
>same reaction (twice!) but in neither case did they mention Over the
>Rhine. i think they just thought the shirt was neat. but, maybe not.
>maybe there was a silent comeraderie. i didn't press.
>
>
>
>jg
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:30:13 -0400
>From: barkera at nsk-corp_com
>Subject: @@@@ Jump Little Children; no OTR
>
>Hey kids,
>
> Driving home last night, I heard a song by a new band
>callled 'Jump Little Children'. It was an acoustic Jeff Buckley-sounding
>number that greatly piqued my interest. I actually thought is was
>another lost Buckley track until the station back-announced
>the song.
> Anybody know or have an opinion on these guys?
>
>later,
>AaronB
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:50:57 GMT
>From: vogelap at email_uc.edu (Andrew Vogel)
>Subject: Re: Quickly Re: Everything
>
>On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:54:51 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>
>><blink, blink>
>>Just checked out the two dimensional
>>representation of the visual aspect of the famed
>>Vogel mojo on AnDrew's site. I, carefully
>>skeptical, must confess. . . <nah!> I ain't
>>confessin' nuthin. <deep breath>
>>
>><deep breath>
>Do tell.
>
>Go on.
>
>Do tell.
>
>===========================================================================
>Andrew Vogel: Manager of Professional Programs at the Univ. of Cincinnati
>College of Pharmacy. Actor, director, dog (JRT) fanatic, author, Miata
>owner, & much, much more! My homepage: "http://homepages.uc.edu/~vogelap"
>Offical BC3K Tester. Linux! "The only way OUT is THROUGH."
>- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=-
>dug: you da man! you da man! "Drew Vogel is its own reward."
>ric: isn't "the man" the guy who's always bringing everyone down?
>dug: nope! 'cause YOU da man!! Email: vogelap at email_uc.edu
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:52:27 GMT
>From: vogelap at email_uc.edu (Andrew Vogel)
>Subject: Re: Quickly Re: Everything
>
>On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:25:52 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>> Whilst I ramble, I must also assert: suicide is
>>> not funny. I do not appreciate previous (albeit
>>> intended lightly) recommendations of mode of
>>> self-disposal for a certain mellodramatic poster.
>>> Not cute. In very, very poor taste. Did not
>>> expect to read such things here.
>>
>>Anything is fair game for humor in my book. If you can't laugh at
>>something, you've lost your will to live.
>>
>I would tend to agree with you, Chris, but I would also say that there
>is a time and a place for most kinds of humor... I missed the whole
>suicide discussion, so I'm not able to comment on that...
>
>>> <blink, blink>
>>> Just checked out the two dimensional
>>> representation of the visual aspect of the famed
>>> Vogel mojo on AnDrew's site. I, carefully
>>> skeptical, must confess. . . <nah!> I ain't
>>> confessin' nuthin. <deep breath>
>>
>>The Vogel Mojo can't be captured by a camera. Well, maybe using some
>>advanced technique for Kirlian Photography or something.
>>
>They're working on it, but nothing comes close, yet...
>
>>It's an essence, an aura, a magical presence that only exists in a sphere
>>immediately surrounding Drew.
>>
>It's got a good radius, really...
>
>===========================================================================
>Andrew Vogel: Manager of Professional Programs at the Univ. of Cincinnati
>College of Pharmacy. Actor, director, dog (JRT) fanatic, author, Miata
>owner, & much, much more! My homepage: "http://homepages.uc.edu/~vogelap"
>Offical BC3K Tester. Linux! "The only way OUT is THROUGH."
>- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=-
>dug: you da man! you da man! "Drew Vogel is its own reward."
>ric: isn't "the man" the guy who's always bringing everyone down?
>dug: nope! 'cause YOU da man!! Email: vogelap at email_uc.edu
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:07:22 GMT
>From: "Jeff Holland" <jholland444 at hotmail_com>
>Subject: Re: Over-The-Rhine Digest V2 #743
>
>>
>>I got a pre-release of 'With Abandon' about three months before it was
>>released and was totally amazed by its freshness. So much crap is
>>released that calls itself Christian "music" that this one stuck out
>>like a sore mullet. I believe it and the Burlap to Cashmere cd's are the
>>only original things to come out in the ccm market in the last 18 months.
>> I just knew that everyone else would love the Chasing Furies cd as much
>>as I did so I stocked the shelves pretty well. I think I've sold
>>one...but Caedmon's Call flies out the door...What are these people
>>thinking? Oh well, that's why I come here.
>
> I gotta agree with you about be mostly disinterested in new
>CCM these days (bought a total of 1 CD this entire year from my local
>"Christian store"), but I have to come to defense for one of my favorite
>bands. Caedmon's Call is really good stuff, and they are one of the most
>sincere, hard-working bands out there today. Great guys
>(and gal) and they've been putting out quality folk music long
>before it became stylish in the CCM market.
>
> Sorry, you got me riled up. :)
>
>>Artist t-shirts are great ways to get the attention of other artists. I
>>was at a VOL show once with a friend who was immediately noticed by Bill
>>Mallonee because she was wearing a Stinging Rain t-shirt.
>
> Bill rocks. At Cornerstone, he started up a conversation with
>_me_ (caught me totally by surprise) because he noticed I had a Georgia
Tech
>shirt on and wondered if I was from around his neck of the woods.
>
>
> Jeff
>
>Visit the Over the Rhine History page at
>http://members.tripod.com/JeffreyHolland/otrhine
>
>Jeff Holland JHolland444 at hotmail_com
>http://members.tripod.com/JeffreyHolland
>
>
>
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 07:38:21 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Peter <feothan at yahoo_com>
>Subject: "Let this serve as warning" (grey crayon on monitor)
>
>To whom it may concern:
>
>This e-mail account has been confiscated in
>accordance with Clause 8008437665 of the Order of
>Ubiquity Manifesto. Any questions may be
>addressed to this account, care of E. J. B.
>
>Erwin J. Blanderman,
>Auditor of the Public
>
>__________________________________________________
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:59:12 EST
>From: "Sarah Sanzenbacher GS|DCB" <SANZENBACHER at novell_chem.utk.edu>
>Subject: Re: Neil Finn/Crowded House
>
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>> Subject: Re: Neil Finn/Crowded House
>> To: howe.38 at osu_edu
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>> In a message dated 08/19/1999 2:24:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>> howe.38 at osu_edu writes:
>>
>> > The same as many african-americans refer to themselves wit the "N"
word,
>> that
>> > doesn't mean you should feel free to use it too.
>> >
>>
>> Except, as a general rule, the "N" word would not be used by an
>> African-American when he/she is speaking to someone of another ethnicity.
>> NZers however, because there is no bigotry associated with the term
"Kiwi",
>> have no problem with using the word freely.
>
>I have to agree with Kyle on this one. I don't think any slang
>phrase referring to race should be used in a polite social setting.
>Even though a name might not be associated with bigotry, it still
>produces a barrier between various races...Although I don't think it
>is wrong for you to refer to the fact that you like music by people
>from a certain area, I don't feel any race should be lumped into any
>sort of slang word...I am not trying to argue, just want to put in my
>little opinion...Sarah
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:36:03 -0400 (EDT)
>From: "Amy N Macrellis" <macrell1 at pilot_msu.edu>
>Subject: Re: Neil Finn / Crowded House
>
>>
>> (offsubject) Bink - what became of my CD?
>
>For that matter, what became of Bink??
>
>You still out there, luv?
>
>/hugs/
>Raven
>
>
>(Smile! Today's my last day at work!!!!!)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:45:47 EST
>From: "Sarah Sanzenbacher GS|DCB" <SANZENBACHER at novell_chem.utk.edu>
>Subject: AMY'S LAST DAY OF WORK!!!!!
>
>Congratulations on your last day at work, and at school!!! You are
>so lucky to be done, I know I will be in school forever...Maybe
>longer...Sarah
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:00:05 -0400
>From: "Chris Emery" <chris.emery at ecoutlook_com>
>Subject: RE: gone fishin'
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kelvin T Bailey [mailto:kelvinbailey at juno_com]
>> >By the truckload, I'm sure. But you should shop at Bi-Lo because my
>> >sister works there.
>>
>> We don't have Bi-Lo in Louisville. Would Sis ship me some?
>
>Ahh, you're not far enough south then. Sorry. Bi-Lo is a prime example
>of the decay of American culture.
>
>- --
>Chris Emery
>chris.emery at ecoutlook_com
>
>NP: Rage Against The Machine _Rage Against The Machine_
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:01:00 -0400
>From: "Chris Emery" <chris.emery at ecoutlook_com>
>Subject: RE: @@@@ Jump Little Children; no OTR
>
>> Anybody know or have an opinion on these guys?
>
>I heartily endorse and/or recommend this product.
>
>- --
>Chris Emery
>chris.emery at ecoutlook_com
>
>NP: Rage Against The Machine _Rage Against The Machine_
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:02:25 -0400
>From: Kyle Howe <howe.38 at osu_edu>
>Subject: RE: Neil Finn/Crowded House
>
>>I have to agree with Kyle on this one. I don't think any slang
>>phrase referring to race should be used in a polite social setting.
>>Even though a name might not be associated with bigotry, it still
>>produces a barrier between various races...Although I don't think it
>>is wrong for you to refer to the fact that you like music by people
>>from a certain area, I don't feel any race should be lumped into any
>>sort of slang word...I am not trying to argue, just want to put in my
>>little opinion...Sarah
>
>
>
>I think Sarah said it more diplomatically than I would ever care to when
discussing such subjects. Thank you, Sarah, for your support ;)
>
>Kyle
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:10:35 EST
>From: "Sarah Sanzenbacher GS|DCB" <SANZENBACHER at novell_chem.utk.edu>
>Subject: RE: gone fishin'
>
>Oooh-
>We have Bi-Los!!! They have a bonus card...and even a bonus car that
>drives around for some reason...I have seen it on the strip here in K-
>town...The south is so cool!!! By the way, Chris- every time I see
>this subject, I think of the duet by Bing Crosby and Louie
>Armstrong...Sarah
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:25:14 -0400
>From: "Chris Emery" <chris.emery at ecoutlook_com>
>Subject: RE: gone fishin'
>
>> We have Bi-Los!!!
>
>Yippee.
>
>> They have a bonus card...and even a bonus car that
>> drives around for some reason...I have seen it on the strip here in K-
>> town...The south is so cool!!!
>
>I don't think "cool" is the word I was looking for. At least the south is
>there to act as a buffer zone for Mexico.
>
>> By the way, Chris- every time I see
>> this subject, I think of the duet by Bing Crosby and Louie
>> Armstrong...Sarah
>
>Ahh...the Bing & Louis sessions. 49-51 on Capitol records, right?
>
>- --
>Chris Emery
>chris.emery at ecoutlook_com
>
>NP: Mother Love Bone _Mother Love Bone_
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:29:47 EST
>From: "Sarah Sanzenbacher GS|DCB" <SANZENBACHER at novell_chem.utk.edu>
>Subject: RE: gone fishin'
>
>Chris-
>You just dont like the south because you dont live here. i dont
>think you can understand what it is like to live in the city of the
>National Champions in football...You got so close, though!!! I have
>some Louie A. cd that has that song on it...Sarah
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:32:56 -0700 (PDT)
>From: "l. godlove" <indigoebony at yahoo_com>
>Subject: driven by useless thoughts?
>
>whilst Jay is attempting to master my ancient coffee
>grinder so we can partake of our daily java, I decided
>to put in my (pre-coffee) thoughts o' da day...
>
>
>firstly:
>> I was just telling Lindsey the other day (we're
>> neighbors and somewhat long-time friends)
>
>
>(GASP!)
>
>Peter!
>
>how could you reveal that you live just around the
>corner and down the street from me? by mentioning
>this mere factor, you have completely expelled the
>rumour I am trying to perculate that I am not actually
>a young woman living in a small town, kicking around
>for whatever amusements I find in cracked sidewalks,
>but a strange otherworldly creature operated entirely
>by 7,000 of the most brilliant and incompatable minds
>existing! how could you?
>
>of course, this means that I can start making those
>little personal memos acknowledging that I still
>remember you and by the way may I have my Nick Cave cd
>back and gee, I wish I could have made the late night
>flick wit ya, but Wal-Mart was completely captivating
>at 9:30.
>
>other notes:
>I want coffee...
>
>oh...I'll keep going anyways...um...lessee.
>
>thoughts on pseudo-intellectual psycho babble...
>here here....or is that hear, hear?
>
>I do, in some instances, completely agree that we do
>have to use flowers and wit to sometimes make the most
>basic statements. mostly, because the most basic
>statements often have been dulled of their thwacking
>ability and one requires a different poison to kill
>the issue at hand.
>
>(did I say that clearly?)
>
>and on the issue of one particular poster putting
>forth calls in the dark, stuff of the bottle, and
>wonderings. I would agree that the good sir could
>have edited his thoughts somewhat, but I also
>understand the need to just get the shit out there
>some days when you kinda wonder if anyone is still
>listening....and there is also to be said for that
>chap that some statements were quite clever.
>
>and you, mr. kyle, as always clever and insulting in
>your suggestions of caliber. (light grin).
>
>(contemplating briefly, thoughts of various shrapnels
>aimed in your direction.)
>
>(nevermind. without me cafe' they would prove
>blanks...)
>
>(jay...coffee? please?!)
>
>(batting my eyelashes)
>
>okay, now that business is cared for, other matters.
>
>
>um, me lack of words and communications to some such
>dear, dear folks who I have treasured wordings with:
>
>
>i am very sorry.
>
>(lame excuse about to be offered, please hold thy
>nose)
>
>I am attempting to move into me new abode and life is
>finally levelling out in a way that I can actually
>chronicle a few of the metroing thoughts now that my
>jet-lag is starting to clear. as soon as I can
>conquer and slaughter and grill the ugly beast that is
>my own lazy procrastination, I will mail the seven
>some odd letter addressed to your person.
>
>after I drink my coffee.
>
>
>
>and here's a proposition:
>
>(gentlemen, do not hold your breath)
>
>
>considering the brilliant thoughts and writings we
>have outpoured on said digest, has anyone considered
>beginning a writing forum of sorts? some of us know
>various things about editing and proper technique and
>such? or perchance something on the babbling over
>literature? would we want to spare the digest or
>would we want to take such pipe smoking dreams
>elsewhere?
>
>in other words, if I (as always) continue blathering
>on such things dear to my heart, will you care?
>
>
>
>the coffee is almost done, saith the harnish.
>time for me to get cracking.
>
>
>loves to ya'll.
>
>lynzi
>__________________________________________________
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:40:28 -0400
>From: Kyle Howe <howe.38 at osu_edu>
>Subject: RE: driven by useless thoughts?
>
>and you, mr. kyle, as always clever and insulting in
>your suggestions of caliber. (light grin).
>
>Who? Me? Insulting? What would ever make you say something like that, my
dear? You are hurting my delicate sensibilies...:)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:45:38 EST
>From: "Sarah Sanzenbacher GS|DCB" <SANZENBACHER at novell_chem.utk.edu>
>Subject: Re: driven by useless thoughts?
>
>Since I have such a big mouth and there has been so much talk about
>pseudo-intellectual psychobabble, i think maybe i will mention
>something. first of all, "saying something with flowers" is not what
>i feel to be the pseudo-intellectual psychobabble...that is
>different. this "psychobabble" as we might call it would be when a
>person states something in a manner in which it is completely
>unrecognizable as the statement in which he or she is trying to make.
> that may not make sense...what i mean is that it is ridiculous for
>someone to try so hard to make a statement flowery that the meaning
>is lost in the attempts to make whatever is being said sound
>prettier. i feel that there are beautiful ways to state even the
>simplest of things, and i respect it when one is eloquent and can
>state such things in a manner which makes them more beautiful. there
>are certain people who just speak with a poetry about them.
>sometimes there are others who do not, yet attempt this. instead of
>sounding lovely as they are attempting to do, they sound silly. the
>people who can talk in this manner just do because that is who they
>are, not because they try. when people try, this is when i feel the
>"psychobabble" takes place. i, for one, am not a person who speaks
>poetically...If i have somthing to say, i say it in the simplest,
>most direct way i possibly can. maybe this is repercussions on being
>a chemist and reading chemistry journals. i think most chemists
>would leave out verbs if it were possible...conciseness is a part of
>our nature...on the other hand, lindsey has a gift for speaking in a
>very beautiful, poetic manner. I would attempt to say that if she
>were speaking face to face, she would speak the same way...anyhow,
>those are my views on psychobabble...i am going to stop rambling
>now...sarah
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:54:18 -0400
>From: Kyle Howe <howe.38 at osu_edu>
>Subject: RE: driven by useless thoughts?
>
>>Since I have such a big mouth
>
>Do you now? Really? :)
>
>>this "psychobabble" as we might call it would be when a
>>person states something in a manner in which it is completely
>>unrecognizable as the statement in which he or she is trying to make.
> >that may not make sense...
>
>Nothing a couple of good technical writing courses couldn't cure...
>
>
>maybe this is repercussions on being
>a chemist and reading chemistry journals. i think most chemists
>would leave out verbs if it were possible...conciseness is a part of
>our nature...
>
>sometimes, doesn't it just make you want to grab a big black marker and
start editing right on your computer screen? I know I do :)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:58:15 EDT
>From: OncleBoo at aol_com
>Subject: Re: Neil Finn/Crowded House
>
>Sarah writes:
>
>> I have to agree with Kyle on this one. I don't think any slang
>> phrase referring to race should be used in a polite social setting.
>> Even though a name might not be associated with bigotry, it still
>> produces a barrier between various races...Although I don't think it
>> is wrong for you to refer to the fact that you like music by people
>> from a certain area, I don't feel any race should be lumped into any
>> sort of slang word...I am not trying to argue, just want to put in my
>> little opinion...Sarah
>
>Okay, here's my final thoughts on this subject: I guess I just see a
>difference between slang terms thrust upon a group that are offensive and
>insulting, and slang that a people take upon themselves as part of their
>national pride. I've never known an African-American to not be offended
and
>insulted by the "N" word, however I've also never known anyone from New
>Zealand to be offended in the least by being called a Kiwi. As far as I
can
>see, it's only in the former case, and not the latter, that the use of such
a
>term is likely to erect the sort of barrier that you referred to above. If
>you're not comfortable using a term like "Kiwi", then by all means, don't
use
>it. At the same time though, don't assume that those of us who don't share
>your discomfort are being hateful.
>
>Steve
>oncleboo at aol_com
>
>np: Dave Alvin - "Blackjack David"
>
>"Reason, or the ratio of all we have already known, is not the same that it
>shall be when we know more." - William Blake
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:57:43 EDT
>From: Budah2004 at aol_com
>Subject: monk: zero; post office: one. (no otr.)
>
>for this they raise the price of stamps?
>
>today the real packaging for blink came in the mail. however, it came with
a
>little twist. one corner of the package was torn off. okay, that happens
>enough. i wouldn't have minded had it not damaged the contents. but in cd
>mailers, there is no extra room should the post office decide to exert its
>hideous strength. i open the package and i find a nasty half-surprise: one
>corner of the jewel case is (somewhat remarkably cleanly) snapped off.
quite
>literally. it's just gone. i find this fairly impressive because it's
>really not an easy thing to snap off just the corner of a jewel
>case--especially as cleanly as it was. the booklet has that corner
slightly
>defaced, and the same corner of the tray sheet is defaced a bit more. the
>damage to the case prevents it from being closed completely, and every time
i
>open it the tray tries to jump out at me. the three intact corners of the
>case prevent this, but it's still not particularly comforting. this damage
>does nothing to endear to me to the king-of-the-mountain postal service. i
>will soon pay a visit to the local post office. hopefully this will be
>cleared up somehow.
>
>on the bright side, though, the packaging is indeed a work of art. even
with
>the damage.
>
>not very happy right now,
>burrill.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:42:16 EDT
>From: Budah2004 at aol_com
>Subject: otr at hillsdale college, august twenty-third.
>
>does anyone else happen to be making the trip for this show, or will i be
all
>alone?
>
>
>- -burrill.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:49:23 -0400
>From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm at erinet_com>
>Subject: Re: Chasing Furies, Caedmon's...
>
>Kelvin Bailey wrote:
>>I just knew that everyone else would love the Chasing Furies cd as much
>>as I did so I stocked the shelves pretty well. I think I've sold
>>one...but Caedmon's Call flies out the door...What are these people
>>thinking? Oh well, that's why I come here.
>
>Hey, don't be knockin' Caedmon's Call... :)
>
>One of the *few* groups that I can buy in a Christian bookstore that I
>*really* dig. In fact, probably my *only* reason to go into a Christian
>bookstore (EVER). As for Chasing Furies and Burlap to Cashmere, they're
>cool too... but ya gotta put out more than one CD to get my loyalty.
>
>Dan
>
>NP: Z - Shampoohorn
>
>
>
>
>+- Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web -+
> dantemm at erinet_com http://www.dlm.net/gc/
> - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - -
> "They only come out at night... or in this case-
>+- the daytime." -Police Chief Wiggum -+
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:05:00 +0100
>From: "Gardner McPherson" <yavin at mindspring_com>
>Subject: Re: @@@@ Jump Little Children; no OTR
>
>>
>>
>> Hey kids,
>>
>> Driving home last night, I heard a song by a new band
>> callled 'Jump Little Children'. It was an acoustic Jeff Buckley-sounding
>> number that greatly piqued my interest. I actually thought is was
>> another lost Buckley track until the station back-announced
>> the song.
>> Anybody know or have an opinion on these guys?
>>
>> later,
>> AaronB
>>
>>
>>
>They're a great band, but they are not new. They were all the rage on
>college radio about four years ago. CMJ listed them as one of the best up
>and coming bands. They wanted an insane amount of money for a booking
>though because of the noteriety.
>
>Gardner.
>
>- --
>"Everyone has a little secret he keeps,
>I light the fires while the city sleeps."
>
>- -MC 900FT Jesus, "The City Sleeps"
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:20:14 -0400
>From: "Sir Not Quite So Brave As Sir Lancelot" <howe.38 at osu_edu>
>Subject: Black Hole
>
>maybe if i smoke enough cigarettes, i can implode and collapse into a
>singularity.
>
>(mathematically speaking, if mass is approaching infinity while volume is
>approaching negative infinity, so a simple differentiation process would
>dictate that the density would also be approaching infinity) so I'd be
>this infinitely dense object (which i can be sometimes, without the
>implosion process) that even light can not escape...i can be the
disruption
>in the space-time continuum, if only it were so...
>
>is it possible to put a charge on a singularity?
>
>and if two similarly charged singularities comes into close proximity,
would
>they gravitate toward each other due to their mass, or would they repel
each
>other due to their charge? (is everyone paying attention, hmmm...?)
>
>that is the question for the day...anyone who can answer it to my
>satisfaction gets Chris for a week...
>
>and to all you pseudo-intellectuals out there, this is how its done.
watch
>and learn, little grasshopper.
>
>
>
>kyle
>- --
>Slayer of Easter Rabbits (and other small furry woodland creatures),
>(we are no longer) Devout Seeker of Fluff,
>Brewer of Zen Herbs,
>Skinner of Golden Geckos,
>Shield of the Damned,
>Purveyor of Unholy Dogma,
>Destroyer of the Enclave (and other goofy named suburban residential
areas),
>Eviscerator of Enclave Troopers (and other suburban dwellers),
>Corrupter of the Pure,
>Despoiler of Virgins,
>Usurper of All Red Toyota Tercels,
>Possessor of Nebulous Mutant Powers,
>Protector of this Putrid Realm,
>and Defender of the Undefined Faith.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:43:49 -0700
>From: "krystyn wells" <eisllew at email_msn.com>
>Subject: Re: Neil Finn/Crowded House
>
>>Sarah writes:
>>
>>> I have to agree with Kyle on this one. I don't think any slang
>>> phrase referring to race should be used in a polite social setting.
>>> Even though a name might not be associated with bigotry, it still
>>> produces a barrier between various races...Although I don't think it
>>> is wrong for you to refer to the fact that you like music by people
>>> from a certain area, I don't feel any race should be lumped into any
>>> sort of slang word...I am not trying to argue, just want to put in my
>>> little opinion...Sarah
>>
>>Okay, here's my final thoughts on this subject: I guess I just see a
>>difference between slang terms thrust upon a group that are offensive and
>>insulting, and slang that a people take upon themselves as part of their
>>national pride. I've never known an African-American to not be offended
>and
>>insulted by the "N" word, however I've also never known anyone from New
>>Zealand to be offended in the least by being called a Kiwi. As far as I
>can
>>see, it's only in the former case, and not the latter, that the use of
such
>a
>>term is likely to erect the sort of barrier that you referred to above.
If
>>you're not comfortable using a term like "Kiwi", then by all means, don't
>use
>>it. At the same time though, don't assume that those of us who don't
share
>>your discomfort are being hateful.
>>
>>Steve
>>oncleboo at aol_com
>>
>
>
>
>I'd have to go along with Steve here, only because I have several
>Australian/New Zealander acquaintances, and the *only ever* time any one of
>them ever got offended over the term "Kiwi" was because I said I had eaten
>one, and I was roundly cussed out for not appending the word "fruit" to the
>end of the phrase. KIWI FRUIT. KIWI FRUIT. I will never make that mistake
>again.
>
>As it stands, I have been encouraged to call NZ'ers Kiwis, since it's
better
>than calling them Australians. While it may not necessarily be an insult to
>call them that, it's at best inaccurate. :)
>
>In fact, back when I was managing a cafe, I served a bunch of NZ'ers, and
>was able to identify them as such, instead of assuming they were simply
>Australian.
>
>And while I respect everyone's well-put thoughts on racism, etc., whatever
>the hell is wrong with having a sense of identity? hm?
>
>50% Polish (and yet, not a Polack ;) ),
>Krystyn
>http://eggplant.simplenet.com
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:51:23 -0400
>From: "Sir Not Quite So Brave As Sir Lancelot" <howe.38 at osu_edu>
>Subject: Black Hole revised
>
>maybe if i smoke enough cigarettes today, i can implode and collapse into a
>singularity.
>
>(mathematically speaking, if mass is approaching infinity while volume is
>approaching zero, so a simple differentiation process would
>dictate that the density would also be approaching infinity) so I'd be
>this infinitely dense object (which i can be sometimes, without the
>implosion process) that even light can not escape...i can be the
disruption
>in the space-time continuum, if only it were so...
>
>is it possible to put a charge on a singularity?
>
>and if two similarly charged singularities comes into close proximity,
would
>they gravitate toward each other due to their mass, or would they repel
each
>other due to their charge? (is everyone paying attention, hmmm...?)
>
>that is the question for the day...anyone who can answer it to my
>satisfaction gets Chris for a week...
>and to all you pseudo-intellectuals out there, this is how its done.
watch
>and learn, little grasshopper.
>
>kyle
>- --
>Slayer of Easter Rabbits (and other small furry woodland creatures),
>> (we are no longer) Devout Seeker of Fluff,
>> Brewer of Zen Herbs,
>> Skinner of Golden Geckos,
>> Shield of the Damned,
>> Purveyor of Unholy Dogma,
>> Destroyer of the Enclave (and other goofy named suburban residential
>areas),
>> Eviscerator of Enclave Troopers (and other suburban dwellers),
>> Corrupter of the Pure,
>> Despoiler of Virgins,
>> Usurper of All Red Toyota Tercels,
>> Possessor of Nebulous Mutant Powers,
>> Protector of this Putrid Realm,
>> and Defender of the Undefined Faith.
>>
>>
>
>------------------------------
>
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