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Re: dem primary
no, exactly - nor should stephen stills' endorsement
"sway" one's vote. but is there a "legitimacy factor"
for kerry that stills "instills" (ha!) for me? sure.
not that i wouldn't vote for kerry against w.
anyway... but it's all just fun to think about...
yay!... 4 viable candidates (i'd even like to see rev.
al or dan k. catch fire right about now).
--- Melanie Shannon <lilblueriver@hotmail.com> wrote:
> see, don't get offended now. that was my whole
> point. confirming one's
> vote via michael moore's stamp of approval smacks
> greatly of confirming
> one's vote via rush's approval. both pundits, both
> highly biased, both have
> grains of truth attached, and neither should be used
> as measures of one's
> political opinion.
>
> in my opinion, anyway.
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: E Geist <i_scoobysnak@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: E Geist <i_scoobysnak@yahoo.com>
> To: over-the-rhine@actwin.com
> Subject: Re: dem primary
> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:06:50 -0800 (PST)
>
> jason typed thus reagrding clark:
>
> If Michael Moore can endorse
> him I guess it's safe.
>
> i say:
>
> if stephen stills is hawking for kerry (which he
> is),
> he probably can't be all that bad (although he's my
> last choice amongst the four remaining).
>
> either of those statements are a far cry from
> ditto-head-dom. and jason said simply that he
> thought
> clark had the best chance of winning. whether
> that's
> true in the primary is highly questionable. if
> clark
> makes it through the general, imho, he could well be
> correct (though i favor edwards).
>
> --- Melanie Shannon <lilblueriver@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > yeah, but to your point, folk like rush, and now
> > dennis miller, have made
> > similar nose-tweaking pointed fact-based remarks
> > throughout their careers,
> > but if someone said 'i'm voting for XXXX because
> > rush said i should,' you
> > probably would (or HAVE) been rather, um, irked
> by
> > the statement.
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: E Geist <i_scoobysnak@yahoo.com>
> > Reply-To: E Geist <i_scoobysnak@yahoo.com>
> > To: over-the-rhine@actwin.com
> > Subject: Re: dem primary
> > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 10:40:53 -0800 (PST)
> >
> > oh, no doubt. i guess my point is that (and this
> is
> > someone who i really think could have altered
> > american
> > politics) e. mccarthy warned repeatdely in and
> after
> > the '68 race about the fec (along with the irs
> and
> > fcc) being a beauracracy that is, fundamentally,
> > unamerican and usually not in keeping with laws
> of
> > due
> > process. i mean, i know what you're saying about
> > moore, but i also think that in the ficus
> incident,
> > he
> > was attacking an institution that more than needs
> a
> > little nose-tweaking.
> >
> > --- Melanie Shannon <lilblueriver@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > yeah, reassuring is one thing. but realize
> he's
> > > little more than a pundit,
> > > and pundits on any side of any argument should
> be
> > > consumed with a bucket of
> > > salt.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > From: E Geist <i_scoobysnak@yahoo.com>
> > > Reply-To: E Geist <i_scoobysnak@yahoo.com>
> > > To: over-the-rhine@actwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: dem primary
> > > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 10:23:00 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > > i'm actually not that big a fan of his,
> probably
> > > less
> > > so than most liberals, but i was so thoroughly
> > > disgusted at not having a mccain v. bradley
> > face-off
> > > that i found moore's sentiment and ficus
> > > shennanigans
> > > quite reassuring.
> > > --- Melanie Shannon <lilblueriver@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > i don't know if i would call trying to get
> a
> > > plant
> > > > on the ballot as having
> > > > one's head screwed on well... yeah he's
> > smart,
> > > and
> > > > has a great sense ironic
> > > > humor. but i wouldn't elevate his word or
> > > opinion
> > > > to the point that i'd
> > > > make major decisions based on it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > > From: E Geist <i_scoobysnak@yahoo.com>
> > > > Reply-To: E Geist <i_scoobysnak@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: over-the-rhine@actwin.com
> > > > Subject: Re: dem primary
> > > > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 10:02:46 -0800 (PST)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Melanie Shannon
> <lilblueriver@hotmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yikes!! Michael Moore is amusing and
> all
> > > that,
> > > > but
> > > > > he can't even call a
> > > > > spade a spade concerning his own work
> and
> > > > politics.
> > > > > I'd at least give him a
> > > > > little more credit if he could pony up
> and
> > > admit
> > > > he
> > > > > makes editorial films
> > > > > instead of documentaries.
> > > >
> > > > true, but in the 2000 general election, he
> > > actually
> > > > tried to make the federal election
> committee
> > > legally
> > > > recognize his candidate for nomination ---
> > which
> > > was
> > > > a
> > > > ficus plant. i dunno, considering the two
> > > "options"
> > > > at the time (well, i actually voted for
> > ralph), i
> > > > think someone like that has his head
> screwed
> > on
> > > > pretty
> > > > well.
> > > >
> > > > > (crouching... waiting for the uproar..)
> > > >
> > > > ditto.
> > > >
> > > > -e
> > >
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