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thimble
>>>Yeah -- when I read that bit about the '60s, I couldn't help thinking
that
the '60s were, after all, a *reaction* to something more restrictive.
That was the point, sort of, actually. Periods of restriction have not
led to a downward spiral of increasing restrictions. I could have said,
"During WWII and in the 50s and so on and on we had a lot of restrictive
mentality, but what followed was the 60s, a massive, radical movement for
more rights. Only that radical movement wasn't as radical as it thinks
it was, since it was only one in a long line of radical movements
inspired by the American mentality, whatever that is." Then I could have
listed some of those movements--abolition, muckrakin'--or something. But
gee wiz, you can go read a history book yourself, if ya wanna. The point
is that the trend in this country has been always toward more freedoms,
and that's probably true even during periods we think of as restrictive.
We're always brewing revolution.
Re: pleasantville. Somebody said something like this already, but
basically it seemed to me that Pleasantville was nostalgic for the 60s,
suggesting that sexual liberation would lead to liberation of the mind
and spirit or something. Its 50s was a strawman 50s, and maybe the
writers et al did that on purpose, but the fact is, that's the exact
strawman 50s that is usually set up in conversations about the 50s. But
the time wasn't the bland, it wasn't that bad, c'mon c'mon c'mon get
real.
On the other hand, Toby McGuire is a great actor.
BTW, I think it's just no good to suggest that political conservatives in
the states are pineing away for the 50s. Another strawman is that.
Re: Walt Whitman and Linford. Really nice thoughts. One little note:
the Grey Ghost, the Linford/Karin home/studio is probably named for the
(forgive my spelling) Weimereiner breed that Karin's so fond of (witness
the dog kissin' photo). They are nicknamed "Grey Ghost." Although, we
ought to guess, the poetic Detweilers enjoy all the other connotations
that can accrue to "Grey Ghost." (Also, there's a breed of rabbit called
a rhinelander, but I think they discovered that *after* the fans got
called rhinelanders. It does explain the rabbit poster.)
Similar vein: OtR recorded at least one album in Ohio: Good Dog Bad Dog.
Cos wasn't that recorded at Grey Ghost studies, right there in the middle
o' Cinci?
Fred
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