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Re: I hope someday you'll join us...


>From: GidgetTMsMan at aol_com
>To: b_lachey at hotmail_com
>Subject: Re: I hope someday you'll join us...
>Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:03:13 EDT
>
> > * *unlimited* free speech
>
>"Fire" in a crowded theater, and are you going to let me tell my
>students at a State University about how important my faith in the
>Lord Jesus Christ is to me or worse yet my faith in the Lord Satan
>(which I don't hold but just for argument sake).  This is not to say
>that I don't argee with you, but it is a tough point to defend
>literally unlimited free speech.

Nah, just the "personal safety" wish I also want would be compromised then.  
Free speech is acceptable in the case it doesn't impinge on other's rights.  
If you were in an empty theatre, I'd say yell "Fire" all ya want.  Once you 
*make* someone else act, that's bad.  That's where the grey starts I guess.

> > * nondiscrimination
>
>define please.  "Discrimination" as a word does not mean what most
>people use it to mean.  It is not inherently a negative word.  One
>must discriminate to choose the best person to run the country (not
>that we ever do that) or who they should marry or even sometimes who
>the best person would be for a job.  Any task of comparing options
>and choosing the best employs "discrimination".

I would never employ discrimination - I hear he can barely flip burgers and 
fry fries, let alone do complex vibroacoustic modal analysis.  But 
seriously, just a tolerant people is what I meant.

> > * no personal weapons except for hunting
>
>I agree, but then you'll have people who "need" that 9mm semi-
>automatic to hunt deer.  Also what do all the people who work for gun
>manufacturers do for jobs now?

I guess I'd add a wish of common sense to humanity too.  For like common 
sense isn't all that common, often humanity isn't all that humane.  I don't 
give a rat what the gun workers do for a job now.  See "Critical Path" by 
Fuller - let the 20% of people who want to work work, let the other 80% be 
liesurely.  Or something like that.  ;)

> > * ability to travel freely
>
>How do you ensure this freedom with a small federal government?  I
>guess I need further definition as to what you mean by "small"

Not overly huge.  Manageable.  Understandable.  By the people, for the 
people.  To facilitate things like roads, public utilities, etc.

> > * ability to act upon/free will
>
>I don't think I know what you mean by this.

If I want to write crappy rhyming poetry all day and the government wants me 
to assemble missiles, in my world I'd rather the former.

> > * ample infrastructure
> > * reasonable taxation
>
>How can you have a small government that provides "ample"
>infrastructure without too much money?  This is the equivalent of
>saying, "I want more social welfare programs, but no one should
>cuts any other programs or raise taxes."

I'm an American - I don't pay too much in taxes now.  If the gov't was 
smaller, money was spent more wisely, we could do more with less.  That's 
all I want.

> > So you add it all up, and I'm happy as heck to be born in America, save 
>an
> > exception or two.  It'll work for me until there are no nations anymore.
>
>What will there be?

The world.  I'd don't reckon we'd need a name.

> > If you're willing to change the world - let love be your energy,
>
>Interesting.

Robbie Williams.

> > ACLU member Bruce
>
>:-) And the ACLU lets love be their energy?As long as you are not a
>white, male Christian who wants to express his opinion.

I don't argue for them, I believe in their ideals.


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