I imagine the HIS NAME IS ALIVE song "Karin's Blues" is somehow related to one of their vocalists, Karin Oliver. On a related note, has anyone heard HNIA drummer, Trey Many's band, Velour 100? Much of their material is top notch and Karin Oliver sings some vocals on at least one of their cds as well. shannon soe.pair.com --------------- Unsubscribe by going to http://www.actwin.com/OtR/