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We would like to consider BOoking Over The RHine at our festival, Aug 1- 4
Loon Mountain, Lincoln, NH.
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thanks
dan
In a message dated 1/26/02 4:01:21 AM, Owner-Over-The-Rhine at actwin_com writes:
>
>Over-The-Rhine Digest Saturday, January 26 2002 Volume 03 : Number
>1147
>
>
>
>In this issue:
>
> Re: false dichotomies and what rhymes with Jebus?
> Re: Re: Nine Inch Nails and other sundries
> not that you could if you wanted to...
> Or does it? (was Re: Nothing to do with Nine Inch Nails, really.
> Re: Nothing to do with Nine Inch Nails, really.
> poptart sundries (Re: Nine Inch Nails and other sundries)
> Re: Nothing to do with Nine Inch Nails, really.
> Re: hell just froze over
> Re: false dichotomies and what rhymes with Jebus?
> Re: Nothing to do with Nine Inch Nails, really.
> Re: Dan in michigan's NP list...
> Re: Catch All
> st_p _t
> Re: Catch All
> Re: on-list support/comments/a lil' otr
> Re: Dan's list.... Christiana Jade ... other sundries...
> I'll admit I'm dumb
> DT was Re: Nine Inch Nails and other sundries
>
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>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:50:59 -0800 (PST)
>From: Kelvin Bailey <prestokelvo at yahoo_com>
>Subject: Re: false dichotomies and what rhymes with Jebus?
>
>- --- Dan Temmesfeld <dtemm at yahoo_com> wrote:
>>
>> my only statement on it~
>> christ didn't call his followers to act as separate.
>> so, if there is a dichotomy, it is one that should
>> not be. period.
>
>Hmmm,
>How about "Be holy even as God is holy."
>or "Come out from among them and be separate."
>
>Or do you mean something different?
>
>KElvin
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>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:53:07 -0800 (PST)
>From: Kelvin Bailey <prestokelvo at yahoo_com>
>Subject: Re: Re: Nine Inch Nails and other sundries
>
>- --- Kendrickjd at aol_com wrote:
>> soberman_69 at hotmail_com says to Ysoie:
>>
>> << I appreciate that you are willing to spell out
>> the word "Christ", at least! >>
>>
>> Ysoie's Jewish, thus G-d.
>
>
>Thanks, Jan. IT seemed terribly disrespectful to me
>also.
>
>Kelvin
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>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:56:30 -0800 (PST)
>From: Kelvin Bailey <prestokelvo at yahoo_com>
>Subject: not that you could if you wanted to...
>
>> << You can bet those same people you are protecting
>> now would not show the same concern when it comes to
>> addressing Christians. Your own use of "G-d" shows
>> that. Speaking of which, what is your reason for
>> censoring the name "God?" >>
>>
>I kept seeing this over and
>> over this morning and thought I would respond before
>> 7 other people jump on the "you're censoring God"
>> bandwagon!
>
>I would add that it is soooo very far from censoring
>God that it ain't funny. It comes from a people who
>have such immense respect for God they fill they are
>not worthy to say His name.
>Sometimes I think they've got a point...
>
>Kelvin
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>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:08:11 -0800 (PST)
>From: Kelvin Bailey <prestokelvo at yahoo_com>
>Subject: Or does it? (was Re: Nothing to do with Nine Inch Nails, really.
>
>- --- Ysobelle at aol_com wrote:
>>
>The constant religious threads are, to me at
>> least, a lot like
>> people endlessly and exhaustively discussing penis
>> length and their
>> favourite sexual positions. There's nothing wrong
>> with it, but is a
>> public list really the place for it?
>
>I was trying to find an analogy that worked here, to
>explain how non-Christians might feel.
>I think you've nailed it!
>
>Again and again
>> and again? You're
>> not going to change anyone's mind here-- the
>> Christians are already at
>> the table and the rest of us are at the Chinese
>> noodle place down the
>> street.
>
>Okay, I think I'll burst out into hearty guffaws now!
>
>I appreaciate your post.
>
>KElvin
>
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>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:11:05 -0800 (PST)
>From: Kelvin Bailey <prestokelvo at yahoo_com>
>Subject: Re: Nothing to do with Nine Inch Nails, really.
>
>- --- "Peter T. Chattaway" <petert at interchange_ubc.ca>
>wrote:
>>
>> The way I've always heard it, Jews believe that God
>> chose *them*, and that
>> they did not choose God, thus, it would be wrong for
>> Jews to try to
>> persuade people to choose to worship God in a Jewish
>> way. Hence, Jews
>> don't proselytize. Something like that, anyway.
>
>Hey, they sound like Calvinists!
>
>the Kelvinist
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>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:21:18 -0800 (PST)
>From: "ms. tarquini" <lieselmarietarquini at yahoo_com>
>Subject: poptart sundries (Re: Nine Inch Nails and other sundries)
>
>- --- "j.g." <simon-bar-sinister at neo_rr.com> wrote:
>> i think those chocolate pop-tarts are crappy.
>
>i once did as well, but then i stuck them in the
>toaster oven and voila! the center is like a just
>underbaked brownie, like brownie batter in a crispy
>shell....yum, yum, yum...
>
>> M read this just now. her $.02: "on the other
>> hand, i think your son
>> likes the chocolate pop-tarts the best."
>
>ahhhh, the wisdom of a child...
>
>liesel
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>Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 03:49:41 +0000
>From: "Arthur Dent" <kenlovesbrenda at msn_com>
>Subject: Re: Nothing to do with Nine Inch Nails, really.
>
>(snip)
>
>I actually disagree with this. I, for one, enjoy some of the discussions
>
>that are about religion and it's impacts on people, specifically the people
>
>on this list. for example, i hadn't really thought about what it means
>to
>be Jewish in this world, so i liked this current discussion. I think that
>
>most of the listees agree, or at least, don't mind these topics, as long
>as
>they don't digress into name-calling and "thunder-and-damnation" type
>tirades.
>then again, maybe i should just crawl back to where i was lurking.
>
>ken
>
>
>>>I also don't think that this is
>> > the place to have this discussion. It's not why I signed up to the
>Over
>> > the Rhine list, and I don't think it's why everyone else signed up,
>> > either.
>><snip>
>> > The original welcome message to this list asked us to try to avoid
>> > discussing religion here, and I really do think that's a good idea.
>>
>>Okay, I can respect that. I'll try to keep such subjects to a minimum
>>from now on.
>>
>>-Smitty
>>
>>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>
>>BTW, FWIW, IMHO, AFAIK, yes. OTOH, AAMOF, maybe not. YMMV.
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>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:35:23 -0800 (PST)
>From: "Peter T. Chattaway" <petert at interchange_ubc.ca>
>Subject: Re: hell just froze over
>
>On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Kelvin Bailey wrote:
>
>> > Indeed. But the problem with the "Christian" music scene is that it
>> > is very often *of* the world but not *in* the world.
>>
>> Peter my boy! This is two posts in a row from you
>> with which I have totally agreed.
>> What's wrong with you?
>> :)
>
>Well, even a broken clock is correct twice a day, and all that. :)
>
>- --- Peter T. Chattaway --------------------------- peter at chattaway_com
>---
> "I detected one misprint, but to torture you I will not tell you where."
> Winston Churchill to T.E. Lawrence, re Seven Pillars of Wisdom
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>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:47:44 -0800 (PST)
>From: "Peter T. Chattaway" <petert at interchange_ubc.ca>
>Subject: Re: false dichotomies and what rhymes with Jebus?
>
>On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Kelvin Bailey wrote:
>> --- Dan Temmesfeld <dtemm at yahoo_com> wrote:
>
>> > christ didn't call his followers to act as separate. so, if there
>is
>> > a dichotomy, it is one that should not be. period.
>>
>> Hmmm,
>> How about "Be holy even as God is holy."
>
>That's what the OT says (or close enough, a la Leviticus 19:2). Jesus
>rephrases this saying in two ways in the NT, depending on which gospel
>you
>read; Matthew 5:48 says, "Be perfect, therefore, even as your heavenly
>Father is perfect," and Luke 6:36 says, "Be merciful, just as your Father
>is merciful." (Some translations prefer "Be compassionate...")
>
>BTW, it occurs to me that Matthew has a tendency to replace the word "God"
>with the word "Heaven" in Jesus' sayings, thus, "the Kingdom of God"
>becomes "the Kingdom of Heaven". It's all part of that Jewish
>self-censorshi, I suppose, but there *is* a biblical precedent for it.
>
>> or "Come out from among them and be separate."
>
>Jesus doesn't say that. Paul says that, in II Corinthians 6:17.
>
>- --- Peter T. Chattaway --------------------------- peter at chattaway_com
>---
> "I detected one misprint, but to torture you I will not tell you where."
> Winston Churchill to T.E. Lawrence, re Seven Pillars of Wisdom
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>Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 00:50:54 -0500
>From: "The Mattrix" <soberman_69 at hotmail_com>
>Subject: Re: Nothing to do with Nine Inch Nails, really.
>
>>From: Ysobelle at aol_com
>>You know, I couldn't for the life of me figure out what the hell he was
>>talking about. I'm censoring G-d? Huh?
>
>Give him a break. Honest mistake, no? I never really thought you to be
>
>anti-God myself, but it could be possible to misconstrue things you've
>said
>here in that manner. Such is the limitation of the faceless, pseudo-social
>
>internet.
>
>>Hey, Matt, here's a lesson for you. Yes, as my friends have been kind
>>enough to point out, I'm Jewish, even though I don't usually mention it
>>here. I'll get to why later.
>
>Oh, Jessyka told me you were. Yes, I've heard about the customs regarding
>
>respect for the name of the Most High, but the confusion stems from the
>fact
>that I regard the word God as a title, not a name. Christ is also a title,
>
>and you type that out, but it is more of a vague term than God, and one
>I
>know you don't associate with a true diety. Therefore, I had hoped you
>
>didn't have a fundamental issue with "The" God, and now see that you don't.
>
>Thanks. It is a relief to know that. Seriously, I was worried.
>
>>In our culture, it's considered disrespectful to write out the name of
>>the Creator/G-d/however you choose to say it in a transitory medium.
>>Paper burns, stone crumbles, etc. Thus one never writes it out, really.
>
>See, the "however you choose to say it" part is the source of the
>misunderstanding. That is kinda vague and nebulous. How do Jewish scholars
>
>write theologcal texts and essays withut referring to God "however they
>
>choose to say it"? If allowances aren't made for titles, such as God,
>or
>descriptives such as "the creator", how do they get around this? Help
>me to
>understand this point, 'cause I'm curious.
>
>>so it's okay to write out the word G-d online. But it's
>>habit with me now (and I suppose, what happens if someone prints out my
>>post? Although I guess I'm not writing it myself that time so maybe it
>>wouldn't count? Anyhow....) and I choose not to write it.
>
>I've said it before, to you and other listees, and I'll say it again...if
>
>this thing we call the list is gonna last we've gotta all allow each other
>
>to be ourselves at all times. If that is what you feel comfortable with,
>go
>with it, by all means.
>
>Just be prepared to face this confusion again, somewhere along the line.
>
>And for me and all my kin to exhalt the name "Jesus" once in awhile. Let's
>
>reciprocate! :-)
>
>Sorry if anything I said was deemed upsetting to you. Thanks for sharing.
>
>It was educational!
>
>Take care,
>
>Matt
>
>Oh, one last thing:
>>So. Why don't I mention what religion I am? Cos it's no one's damn
>>business.
>
>Sure, but don't you feel better now that you've gotten that off your chest?
>
>
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>Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:12:37 EST
>From: JaunasAddiccion at aol_com
>Subject: Re: Dan in michigan's NP list...
>
><Is this Lamb as in Joel Chernoff / Rick "Levi" Coghill? Or a Lamb I don't
>know....>
>
>this would be the uk outfit with lou rhodes and andy barlow (electronic
>music).
>
>why, did you mistakenly think i was listening to some intelligent, "cultured"
>band? cause ya know, i was listening to gwar earlier, and that should have
>put all thoughts of my intelligence and culture aside.
>
>- ---dan in michigan
>np: frank sinatra - my way
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>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:19:23 -0800 (PST)
>From: Kelvin Bailey <prestokelvo at yahoo_com>
>Subject: Re: Catch All
>
>- --- Bruce Lachey <b_lachey at hotmail_com> wrote:
>> holy crikeys it's a good show. randy harrison
>>
>> hal sparks
>
>You have got to be kidding!
>I am of the firm opinion that QAF is one of the most
>poorly written, shoddily acted, didactic pieces of
>drivel I have ever seen.
>That and "Leap Years" is why Showtime will never be
>HBO.
>
>"Six Feet Under"...now there's a show.
>
>KElvin
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>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:27:01 -0800 (PST)
>From: Kelvin Bailey <prestokelvo at yahoo_com>
>Subject: st_p _t
>
>Okay, I'm going to be called prudish.
>
>Despite what we may or may not think about *that*
>word, many of us check our email at work or - for
>Pete's sake! - at out mother's house. It would be
>great not to have *that* word screaming off the screen
>when the big boss man or - for Pete's sake - my mom
>walks by!
>
>Deal: I'll not instigate or propogate any God threads
>if you guys will keep *that* word out of subject
>headers.
>
>Appropriate man doesn't like this...no, he indeed does
>not like it.
>
>Kelvo
>
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>Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:28:26 -0500
>From: Bethany Keeley <blk4 at calvin_edu>
>Subject: Re: Catch All
>
>the Kelvinator said:
>
>>
>>
>> "Six Feet Under"...now there's a show.
>>
>>
>>
>
>That may or may not be true, but I maintain that The West Wing is where
>it is at. Bartlet for President.
>
>Bethany
>
>np: Pedro the Lion: it's hard to find a friend (one of my favorite
>tracks in fact -- "when they really get to know you they will run")
>
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>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:36:38 -0800 (PST)
>From: Kelvin Bailey <prestokelvo at yahoo_com>
>Subject: Re: on-list support/comments/a lil' otr
>
>- --- michelle <kanani71 at yahoo_com> wrote:
>>
>I've yet to see someone flare up, take it
>> against their
>> personal belief/opinion/studies and get defensive
>> and hash a movie
>> out over and over and over.
>
>well, maybe because some things are WAY more important
>to people than movies.
>
>I'm just baffled at what is considered offensive here
>and what, on the other hand, gets tossed around along
>with an "I dare you to be offended at this" attitude.
>
>just a thought...
>
>KElvin
>
>
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>Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:34:57 -0500
>From: "Daniel" <danielc at bellsouth_net>
>Subject: Re: Dan's list.... Christiana Jade ... other sundries...
>
>Dan the man with the plan wrote in a reply to a letter I mistakenly
>didn't send on-list....
>
>> <Is this Lamb as in Joel Chernoff / Rick "Levi" Coghill? Or a Lamb I
>> don't know....>
>>
>> this would be the uk outfit with lou rhodes and andy barlow
>> (electronic music).
>>
>> why, did you mistakenly think i was listening to some intelligent,
>> "cultured" band? cause ya know, i was listening to gwar earlier, and
>> that should have put all thoughts of my intelligence and culture
>> aside.
>>
>> ---dan in michigan
>> np: frank sinatra - my way
>
>Ahhh... gotcha. Yes, I was guilty of thinking that... lol.... I have
>NO
>idea who gwar is... my naievete is showing...
>
>BTW... does anybody know anything about Christiana Jade? She is a
>singer... I've heard clips of her music (eastern-flavored ethnic
>electronica I guess you could say -- very Israeli, in a way) that really
>
>intrigued me and I was looking on the 'net but couldn't find anything
>tremendously useful about her.
>
>Anyway... I've tremendously enjoyed much of the recent vigorous
>discussion, and if I had tons of time to sit and think (or not think, as
>
>the case may be... :-) and write emails I would be a more active
>participant. As it is... I love you all entirely (J.Marie -- your post
>in reply
>to Ysoie's I thought very relevant... especially about what the heart of
>
>this list is all about... ) but have very little time to comment... I
>do hope
>to be able to (probably along with Chris) write up the Atlanta show for
>
>you all in new and amazing Technicolor (R or TM or C or P or
>whatever other letters they want).... that would be fun! I also *hope*
>to
>have at least a passable recording to share ... I wrote OtR about it and
>
>have received some very nice and positive feedback regarding the
>band's position on it...
>
>BTW to all who asked... the letters I wrote after Imaginary .... those
>
>are the various forms of representation of imaginary (complex)
>mathematics.... I won't go any further on that... now. :-)
>
>Off to bed... gotta play for services tomorrow (today, now... Saturday)
>
>morning...
>
>Shabbat Shalom,
>
> -- Daniel
> <><
>
>Sha'alu shalom Y'rushalayim
>Pray for the peace of Jerusalem
>
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>
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>
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>Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 02:10:49 -0500
>From: "The Mattrix" <soberman_69 at hotmail_com>
>Subject: I'll admit I'm dumb
>
>Hey, before you just dismiss this as a stupid question, allow me to
>elaborate. For one thing, I realize that the scholars in question could
>
>simply omit vowels, as Dan and Peter discussed earlier today, and as you
>do,
>but do they do this with more lengthy descriptives such as "the creator"?
>
>(You said "however you chose to say it" so I gotta ask.) Now, all I know
>
>about this custom comes from seeing the movie "Pi" (great flick) and reading
>
>somewhere that temple priests/rabbi can't speak the name of God out of
>
>reverence. So, this makes me wonder, can the writings of Jewish scholars
>be
>read aloud? How about to yourself? When you read the word "G-d", don't
>you
>say the word "God" to yourself? Have I been misinformed? Are you indeed
>
>allowed to say it, just not write it?
>
>This may sound like ridicule. It isn't. I find this subject to be
>fascinating, and am an ignorant man seeking enlightenment.
>
>Speaking of which, is the term "God" a name or a title? If so, then saying
>
>"Jimi Hendrix is a God" would qualify as taking the Lord's name in vain,
>
>right? Anybody have any thoughts regarding the whole name vs. title issue.
>
>One thing that occurs to me since I've been forced to revaulate my whole
>
>stance on this is that I cringe when I hear someone say "Christ" as an
>
>expletive, but am downright offended when I hear the name "Jesus" used
>in
>the same manner. So, I can certainly understand the whole wanting to
>refer
>to God as "G-d" thing, regardless of whether it be perceived as a title
>or a
>name, though I'd never regarded the "generic term God as being as meritous
>
>of reverence as the title "Christ".
>
>Thanks for getting me to really think about this...
>
>I wrote:
>>
>>See, the "however you choose to say it" part is the source of the
>>misunderstanding. That is kinda vague and nebulous. How do Jewish
>>scholars
>>write theologcal texts and essays withut referring to God "however they
>>choose to say it"? If allowances aren't made for titles, such as God,
>or
>>descriptives such as "the creator", how do they get around this? Help
>me
>>to
>>understand this point, 'cause I'm curious.
>
>
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>Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 03:49:11 EST
>From: Gilhamilton at aol_com
>Subject: DT was Re: Nine Inch Nails and other sundries
>
>In a message dated 1/24/02 4:08:29 PM Central Standard Time,
>stevenjc at umich_edu writes:
>
><<
> Speaking of Liquid Tension Experiment...new Dream Theater album out on
>
> Tuesday!!!!
>
> (sound of everyone else on this list besides me and Dan going "Huh?")
>
> Hehe...can't wait.
>
> -Steve C.
> >>
>Me for one going Yea! and not Huh?
>DT is coming to Chicago next month (YEA! AGAIN!) and I'm hoping they're
>not
>sold out
>when I go for Tix Saturday.
>
>Kevin (likes DT but still thinks Steve Morse rules on guitar!)
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