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Re: a fly on my pastor's ass
and if you don't read the bible then my definition is worthless?
Powdered up, meaning not saying what I was feeling at the moment (i.e. being
honest with myself).
Look, what Jillian said hit home with me in a place I'm trying to leave
behind. I'm fascinated with faith. which has been one of the main reasons
I lurk around here. I've been captain whino myself. A no hope reckless
wayward. And at this point in my life, I'm sick of it. I've been searching
for something higher. And Jillian held a mirror in my face. I over reacted.
Find it in your heart to forgive me and give me some glimmer of hope that
Christ has some real followers.
~kT
>From: "jay and jenna eads" <eadsj at qwest_net>
>Reply-To: "jay and jenna eads" <eadsj at qwest_net>
>To: "kevin c. taylor" <sevenkevinheaven at hotmail_com>,
><waytogojane at hotmail_com>, <Over-the-Rhine at actwin_com>
>Subject: Re: a fly on my pastor's ass
>Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 01:05:03 -0800
>
>actually...if you read the bible (calling christianity, catholicism and a
>handful of others "major religions", it states that faith inand of itself
>is nothing. have all the faith you wish in government, people, good will,
>string cheese, el caminos and you get nothing of importance. the object of
>faith is the "power" you speak of. just for clarification of what all the
>major religions offer.
>
>powdered it up...what the hell is that?
> jay
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kevin c. taylor
> To: eadsj at qwest_net ; waytogojane at hotmail_com ;
>Over-the-Rhine at actwin_com
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 11:24 PM
> Subject: Re: a fly on my pastor's ass
>
>
> Who said I was a christian? You guys jump to a-lot of conclusions. But
>I know the power of faith. All the major religions teach that. Faith is
>the key to see past your self and be free. If I would have powdered it
>up for you guys like that in the first place maybe your panties would be
>unwaded.
>
>
>
> >From: "jay and jenna eads"
> >Reply-To: "jay and jenna eads"
> >To: "kevin c. taylor" , ,
> >Subject: Re: a fly on my pastor's ass
> >Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 20:22:30 -0800
> >
> >what an un-Christlike attitude. must be hard to see people when you
>can't see past you own glorious reflection in the pool, Narcissus.
> >
> > jay
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: kevin c. taylor
> > To: waytogojane at hotmail_com ; Over-the-Rhine at actwin_com
> > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 2:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: a fly on my pastor's ass
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > why is anti-faith always so hip? people must love watered down
>whininess of prodigals. I'm not impressed.
> >
> > I guess it's hard to see God when you can't see past your nose. Which
>would explain the pessimism.
> >
> > ~kT
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "jillian tully"
> > >Reply-To: "jillian tully"
> > >To: Over-the-Rhine at actwin_com
> > >Subject: a fly on my pastor's ass
> > >Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:42:32 -0600
> > >
> > >question: am i the *only* knob on this list, or are there others
> > >hiding?
> > >*laughs*
> > >
> > >anyway, i've been reading this discussion, and it truly amazes me
> > >how
> > >intelligent all you folk are...how do you get that way? i want to be
> > >like
> > >all of you.
> > >
> > >i've left the christian ghetto and made something of myself in the
> > >world...it feels lovely. yet i can't help looking back and worrying
> > >about my
> > >friends still trapped in there. personally, i still believe in god,
> > >in the
> > >loosest interpretation of what the word is...but i'm still unsure as
> > >to
> > >*what*, forget *who*...god is. my reasons for believing in a supreme
> > >being
> > >most likely stem from my insistence that "there has to be something
> > >else out
> > >there".
> > >
> > >however, i find it ridiculous to label inanimate objects with a word
> > >reserved for followers and believers in the divinity of a man who
> > >walked the
> > >earth giving lectures 2,000 years ago. i find it ridiculous that
> > >people seek
> > >out things that are painted up and marketed to them, with promises
> > >of a
> > >"better spiritual life", or "less blocks to stumble over".
> > >
> > >if christianity began with christ, then why do people insist on
> > >calling
> > >these modern fire-and-brimstone authors the gospel, in their own
> > >ranting,
> > >raving "this-book-changed-my-life" kind of way? i've *read* some of
> > >those
> > >books, and while i enjoyed a couple, and c.s. lewis is still one of
> > >my
> > >favourite authors, none of them gave me the desire to "sell out for
> > >jesus",
> > >or any catchphrase you want to insert here. none of them made me
> > >want to
> > >throw out my tori amos cd's and tear down my rocky horror picture
> > >show
> > >poster. no music made me swap all my tight shirts for t-shirts that
> > >say "got
> > >jesus?".
> > >
> > >no cliquey youth group or college ministry has ever had the answers
> > >to my
> > >questions, and they consistently LOOK OVER THE THINGS YOU ALL ARE
> > >TALKING
> > >ABOUT! constantly batting away discrepancies in writings and truths
> > >and
> > >things people cannot bring themselves to believe like a cow swishing
> > >flies
> > >off its ass. is that how my pastors and bible study leaders see me?
> > >as a fly
> > >on their ass? what kind of christian love and understanding and
> > >openmindedness is THAT?
> > >
> > >anyway...sorry to take up space with my severely uneducated words.
> > >we now
> > >return to our scheduled program, already in progress...
> > >
> > >jillian.
> > >there's only cliches to get across this feeling. - frente
> > >
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