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Re: Education and election


> I AM QUITE AWARE AND COMFORTABLE WITH MY OWN BIASES, THANKYOU VERY MUCH.
> what did i say about republicans?  i do not draw the line between
> republicans and democrats, but rather conservatives and liberals.  who cares
> what their party affiliations are.  you can be a conservative democrat and
> still be a dumbass.

My mistake.  I apologize.  I reform my original statement to read
conservative instead of republican.

> > you might just be right, but do you really think that the federal programs
> > don't shift that money into discretionary spending?  Who do you think gets
> > the money in these drug programs?  .
> 
> one,  i never said i was in support of the medication programs.  i haven't
> had the time to do any indepth research into either of the two medicare
> plans.  two, the money for the drug program as you called it is ear marked
> for medications.  the money is not discretionary spending unless you think
> the seniors are going to forgo their heart medication and go on a spending
> spree at your local suburban strip mall.

Ok, this is a short overview of how the money flows.  We have the
government paying the drug companies, the drug companies pay their
workers/ceos/whatever=discretionary spending.  The money is still being
spent and put out into the market.

> >Ultimately, it goes into the hands of
> > those who work for the government or the drug companies>
> 
> i can see the drug companies but how is it that those working for the
> government going to get the medication money?

bureacracy bureacracy bureacracy someone needs to administrate these
programs and make sure that the drug companies cooperate, people get their
benefits, etc.

> > I'm not endorsing the Republican plan, but I want to point out that both
> > parties are out to line their own pockets.
> 
> parties don't have pockets.  the politicians do.  once again, i stand for
> liberal ideals not political parties or platforms.

Again my mistake.  To line the liberal pockets, then.

> > HA!  I've been involved in "higher" education for nearly five years now,
> > and I think that your view of education is skewed at best.
> 
> kindergarten isn't considered higher education for the rest of us...but
> anyway, do enlighten me as to the skewedness of my view.

Well education can be used as much by the conservative as it can by the
liberal.  Certainly if you focus on certain thinkers like Foucault or
Ellul or spread into some of the Post-Colonial writers you will get a view
of the world that would lead one to definitely care about the "progress
that we are making.  But a lot of people pay little attention to their
formal education and just get the degree to get a job and buy into the
capitalistic dream.

> > > the small states are no more consequential in the electoral system or
> > > otherwise.
> >
> > Um...Yes they are.  They have almost twice the power than they would have
> > under a strict percentage system.
> 
> only in theory, in reality, small states are pretty much ignored as is.

Maybe you're right.  DO you think there is a better way?

> > >Of course, if your a true > academic,
> 
> ooh, dirty word.
> 
>  how dare you accuse me of such a  thing, academic indeed.  i maybe an
> elitist imperialist but never an academic.

:-) sorry.  I didn't mean to offend any sensibilities.

> >you could argue that we have had at least two major miscarriages
> > of the constitution in Lincoln's presidency adn during the assasination of
> > Kennedy.
> 
> i wouldn't argue any such thing simply because i do not see them as
> "miscarriages" but rather just some scheduled maintenance,  the 50,000 mile
> tune-up.
> i am obviously not a strict constructionist by any stretch of the
> imagination.

Noooo..You don't say?

> you may now stand down from you proactive ass-first posture...dismissed.

Oh, may I?  You are ever so kind Master Kyle.  Please teach me how to be
right?  I see the errors in my ways I must become a liberal thinker in
order to save the worry.  Sign me up IWW!

In truth, I'm merely playing the "devil's" advocate, not to associate the
conservatives with Satan.  Just a figure of speech.

Steve


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